And I bet you he felt like his shoulders were parallel to the ground through impact.
Nice sequence as always BOM,
robbo
Yes Bom…that’s a good one…and a persimmon driver from the deck…thankyou very much
What computer type and what photo catch program do you use Bom?.. I use ‘snipping tool’ that was just a standard program hidden amongst my XP windows…your’s seem to come out much clearer than mine… wondered what you used to catch the frames because they look better and shaft and such seems more visible especially from a video sequence like that…Is that Snead V Boros in Atlanta? or the match against Hogan?
No doubt about it!
Two, I have a Mac and I use the ‘grab’ application- Lag and Welshdentist guided me in learning how to use it, or even that I had it! It was hidden in there somewhere.
After I grab the frames and put them into iphoto, I move them into Powerpoint and condense them or shrink them a bit for clarity and size to fit, and place them in line to make the sequence. It’s nothing special by any stretch. Though I would say that when I’m grabbing frames, I’m very conscious of grabbing the same size frame each time. By that I mean I try to pick background points to start and finish, in order to make the swing easier to analyze in space. I’ll pick a tree or a bit of dirt or something on the screen in order to keep my bearings and then stick with that. I find that helps a lot for consistency from frame to frame.
TM
I use Windows like you, can snap the photos but then dont know how to paste the photos together. what program do you use to make a swing collage agter snapping.
Yeah, it was the match against Hogan…
One of the things I love about this shot/sequence, is the sort of arced drain line or whatever it is on the fairway that he’s standing on. It’s such a great reference or guide to the motion and how he moves or accelerates left of his intended target… It always sticks out to my eye when I look at this clip/sequence…
Good one Robbo…brought back a memory. Go Low and myself “schooling” 222 on “level”. 
I insert them into a Word document …put them all in order how I want them and then do a snip of the new bunch of frames I have just put together
I’m thinking that this is a key moment in Snead’s swing. To go from so shallow coming into impact, to then turn it down and in, on, what has to be said, a pretty steep angle, is very interesting. Even taking his right forearm in isolation, it goes from pretty close to parallel to the ground, to not all that far off perpendicular to the ground. It could relate to that old phrase, ‘pouring it on’. And he does it in a very short period of time. And he pivots ‘upward’ during that time too, which to me indicates trying to be on top of something, forcing it downward. If you look at his belt line in relation to the bunker in the distance, not to mention the left leg, you can see that. The shaft keeps right on it’s plane, but the intent has to be down and around at the point. I’d love to know how much he felt like he was hitting down on the ball- does anyone have any writing by him talking about going through impact? Trevino was similar, but he talked about it- there’s quite a few videos on youtube of him talking about different aspects of the game, and all he ever says, from putting to fairway woods, is ‘hit down on it, you have to hit down on it’… it’s actually kind of funny. But the point being, he was SO shallow coming in, similar to Snead, yet in his mind, his goal was apparently to hit down on it.
I can’t locate the source right off but I once read that Sam liked to pinch the ball, even his drives off a tee.
Interesting, it fits well with those two frames…
Cheers, 1T…
Great forearm rotation… riding on the wings of great pivot rotation… which is stabilized through dynamic ground forces.
Bom wrote
Hey Bom, can you elaborate just a bit. I want to make sure I understand it. The “shallow /steep” are tripping me up I think.
Thanks
Here’s a quote of Sam’s about pinching the ball from “The Game I Love” with Fran Pirozzolo, on page 68, “… With the driver, you want to sweep the ball off. But I’ll tell you what, I always like to pinch the ball with my driver just a little bit. I feel doing that keeps the swing and the shot on line better. In fact, I want to swing down on the ball with every club. I try to get amateurs to tee the ball low with their driver - barely off the grass - which helps them swing a little down on the ball and pinch it.”
Too true…which really makes one wonder even with these big heads and titanium monsters…WHY do we want to hit up on the ball with a driver like they all suggest these days?.. That is giving us two entirely different golf swings for drivers and woods and then the irons we need to hit down and through?..so timing and repetition has got to be harder to achieve… Sam knew what he was doing…obviously!!! 
What a great sequence with the driver off the deck. Way back when I used to play in a traveling game where everyone had to drop the ball on every tee. The action was pretty big for me at the time & the players were all better than scratch, it was my favorite game ever. We played some pretty big courses too like Del Rio & Ft Washington and always from the tips. I wish that game as still around, nothing dialed me in quite like it.
That would have been a cool game LCD… there is nothing like pushing yourself out of your comfort zone to help achieve long lasting better results.
I am thinking you are talking persimmon from the deck?
What was your best score doing this?..or the best score posted by others in the group doing this?..not that it matters much but would be a good insight
1T, that’s just fantastic! Thanks a million for that. And obviously Twomasters is exactly right- the modern driver is a disaster for quality iron striking. Add to that the fact that most modern teaching has basically become about hitting it long, ie. hitting the modern driver, and it’s so long piercing iron flights. One of the early modern drivers, I can’t remember which one, maybe the great big bertha, had a hot spot high on face and out towards the toe, and I remember thinking to myself, how the hell am I going to hit out there. But when you found it, the ball with just pop like a high knuckle ball and go far. Obviously that was an attractive distance increase, but disastrous for your swing. Prior to that, I could never get myself to tee the ball high because I loved going down after it… but alas, I learned 
I’ll unlearn it if it kills me!!
I remember Faldo saying that when he went into a week hitting his Persimmon well off the deck, he knew he was going to play well. There’s some standards!
Eagle,
I mean he’s coming into the strike very shallow, so the head is coming in pretty low to the ground relatively speaking. Then very late in it’s journey his thrust becomes downward, or steeper, again, relative to it’s journey. When you bring your right forearm into the zone still loaded, it’s in a belly up position with the fingers pointing out away from you at a height that’s above the ball. But when you rotate it into impact, it steepens, and the fingers point more downward. Macs had a great observation in this regard a while ago holding a pen beside his desk.
It’s an interesting subject actually, and I reckon it’s one of the subconscious reasons that shallow is difficult to do. Even though shallow is closer to the ground, it’s actually going to make contact with the ground later or slower than steep is. Kind of like an airplane landing. And even though steep is coming from higher above the ground than shallow, it’s descent is quicker and it hits the ground sooner than shallow. Kind of like a helicopter. It’s a weird sort of mind bender. And when hitting the ball is a priority, the urge is that the earlier the better, in a dumb way. So steep seems more appealing, but it’s obviously not. The feeling of the airplane approach into impact is a good one to feel because you want to feel like you’re sort skidding into impact like a plane, not digging in. Snead looks like he’s coming into impact as if he’s trying to hit under the ball, then late in the day he decides to hit down on it. I’ve come across some very odd impact zone images that work really well, but you’d never think they should- like trying to roll the ball from under it with a wedge, for example, spins the crap out of it and creates a real ‘nippy’ strike.