[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKDmsI5wWvM[/youtube]
Here is another one of Knudson where he categorically says the head has not part in the swing???
Some wondeful images in Henry Cotton’s (3 time Open Champ) “This Game of Golf” - from the 30’s and 40’s
Top left: AJ Lacey
Top right: Miss Wanda Morgan
Bottom Left: RA Oppenheimer
Bottom right: Cotton himself at Walton Heath in 1938
Cheers, Arnie
The incomparable Jimmy Bruen at impact about which Cotton wrote “you can equal this position but not beat it…”
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Richie3Jack has a very cool vid of Moe…enjoy…
It’s actually been posted by Hogan’s Quest on YouTube, I just embedded it on my blog. Cool stuff.
3JACK
Moe used to do that kind of thing with a 5 iron… just as accurate…
In Toronto, I was watching Moe hit at a range that had a old steel barrel out about 170 yards and he was clanking that thing about every 3 balls.
I hate to sound crass, but I was actually expecting better from Moe, like knocking a few in.
I never saw him hit in person. When I was in college, one of my teammates recorded video of him at a clinic and then later on a course. This was '95 so he was up there in age. According to my teammate, he was hitting the driver easily 270-280 off the tee, which I thought was pretty impressive for a guy in his 60’s. The thing I couldn’t get over was watching Moe at the clinic hitting balls with a 7-iron and hitting enough of them that they were piling up and then he started hitting shots that would land into the pile of golf balls.
That’s why I was surprised he didn’t knock a few of them in the video. He was that good.
3JACK
Not that it’s a dis of Moe but that is TERRIBLE piece of video. It doesn’t show trajectory of the shots and where they’re landing. Also there is a slope 5 feet past the hole keeping all the balls from rolling past. I can’t tell how far back he really is an why all these pitches are running out so badly, if that slope wasn’t there they’d be all over the lot. Still not saying he wasn’t very good but any 5 would put a large bucket of pitch shots on an open green with a backboard collection spot. The true measure of skill is consistency of trajectory, distance and spin which is impossible to see there.
The video is 70 yards downwind over water, I think that Moe played for the back slope. I agree they could have made a better job of the video with regards to trajectory etc, it would have been nice to have shot it split screen.
In the same video he does a driver test where he hits 20 drives over water into a crosswind, no test hits, no retakes and he hits the fairway 18 out of 20 times which at the time was better than the most accurate tour pro by 8-10% pretty impressive especially when you take his age into acount!
Bobby Jones 1930 Rear View
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw4B6qYMWn8[/youtube]
There isn’t much talk of Jack around here probably because his swing got so bad over the years. Here is some great footage from when he was younger- just pure raw athleticism. His lower half is just phenomenal!! He might have put that major record out of site of even Tiger if he had have kept this up… it’s easy to watch this one on repeat… great stuff
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI-qQhMQZMo[/youtube]
Well,
Those are some great clips, and any of the students here should take note of the wonderful module #2 work of Nicklaus.
He hits our PV5 objective wonderfully as well.
Here’s a Trevino masterclass from the 1990 Senior US Open… and I love how delighted he is with making his bogey on the last- says a lot about his attitude… great stuff
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5WzfdN_-4o[/youtube]
just found this great post from Bom back in January… worth another look, as well as this thread being a really good one to go through again.
Some great stuff from Trevino in the vid above… make sure to have a look…
Is it just me or did they build Arnie upside down? Surely those are legs coming out of his shoulders…
Dad and I rummaged through the garage and pulled out the old VCR, and two big boxes of video tapes of all kinds of tournaments he taped back in the 80’s and 90’s. I reached in and pulled out the 1986 PGA Championship, and dad had taped the final round. It was amazing how beautiful the picture was, and the video tape did not seem to have lost any fidelity at all. Although for those who were around the game back then, the final hole heroics of Bob Tway are what most will remember… but it was so fun to watch because other than that final shot, I never knew the outcome of any one particular shot… so it really was like watching a fresh new event.
History seems to paint this one as how Tway stole another major from Norman, but the reality was that Greg just played very poorly the last round. If he shoots 73 the last round he wins it outright regardless of Tway’s miracle shot. Paired in the last group, and coming off an amazing 64 on Saturday, Tway beats Norman head to head by 6 shots on Sunday. Well deserving of the win.
It was just so much more exciting to watch the golf, because it was just so important to drive the ball in the fairway. The rough was just brutal, and the greens were so small, with this thick thatch right off the apron. Norman was pitching out sideways from the rough and trees after a few hooked drives, and I think I only saw one shot stay on the green from the rough where Tway hit one right and was on some matted down gallery grass. Both Tway and Norman putted one off the green from 15 and 20 feet right into the rough.
It was pretty shocking to see how tight the fairways where, and to actually see trees (that really do come into play for a change) on the golf course. Some of the tee boxes were cut through a bowling alley slot through the pines where you also had to shape the ball of the tee. It was so fun to see the balatas dancing all over the greens and how much they would curve in the air.
I played with Bob Tway in Oklahoma, and he was really long. 6-4 and he just had this big powerful swing and could just launch it. But all the golf swings were so in balance. Such a thing of beauty, not like today with guys just flailing at it, and falling off balance because they can with the wide open tracks and frying pans. Watching Tway hit a high towering 1 iron off the fairway into a par 5 on the back nine was just incredible. 525, driver 1 iron to 15 feet to a tiny green. It was a very risky shot pulled off perfectly and highly rewarded. After that, the pressure was getting to him, and he was dumping iron shots right of the greens but making two incredible up and downs from beyond ankle deep rough.
The crack of the persimmon drives with balatas where just great to hear again. Such a different sound, so much more pleasing to hear.
The course was playing 6985, which was just a monster back then.
Vintage Donald Ross course, Four US Opens there, two PGA’s, but the regular tour has not been back there since 1993.
If they did, and I hope they don’t actually, because I am sure they would rip out most all the trees, and put in silly tees that would destroy the shape of the holes to cater to the modern garbage.
This game has really taken a turn for the worse. So much more artistry and finesse to the shotmaking. So much more strategic playing, and shaping shots into greens.
Golfers do not need to hit the ball longer, and golf courses do not need to be 7400 yards to make the game exciting, interesting and crown a true champion at any level.
I went digging into Natep’s channel after the Count clip that was posted, and found this… such great stuff! Apart from the quality of the action, there are some great sounds to listen out for- the strike on each shot, the hands tacking to the leather grip, and the leather gripped clubs rattling in the staff bag(always a favourite of mine) It’s just a great clip. Do you have any more of this Natep? I’d love to see the whole video if you have it!
p.s. RR, you might like his youtube channel avatar!
Cheers.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koUPXbkAgeQ[/youtube]
Guess who?
Good stuff in here. Whose hands, Bom?
Palmer maybe? Those are some big, meaty paws.