Great Ball Strikers of all time - links to footage and pics

I was just about to go to bed, but Mr Player has inspired me to drill another 30 mins. Thanks for posting! :smiley:

Gary Player at age 75!

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For those deep into the ABS course… we see every Module at work here…
Wonderful to see Gary still with a masterful golf swing at age 75.
Nothing but inspirational!

I love how Mr. Shute never stops the club-shaft, no up and then down… one continuous motion with a reverse loop:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ltxu99vjyo[/youtube]

Chris

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IochBbVklOw[/youtube]

Impressive…

Chris

That is impressive, especially his post impact pivot thrust, i have alot of work to do.

Por todo Hogan afficionados:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOm3875swok[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HHjW30QRb4[/youtube]

Enjoy…

Chris

Something got me wondering after viewing lots of Gary Player swings. Could it be that Players Trigger move ( right knee bump toward the target) Is not just a trigger move but an intentional mechanism to obtain more spine tilt for the arms to have a pocket for the 4:30? I have been deep in thought on how some of the great ball strikers in the past (Hogan Knudson Player, etc…) obtain spine tilt for deep access into the 4:30 when they have LITTLE SPINE TILT AT ADDRESS. (I know i might be fooled by camera angles). It is clearly evident watching video of Lag’s swings and what he says that it is very important to have spine tilt at address. My question is why does it seem like nobody strives for these intentions (Moe of course is the exception!!)

The idea that the set up is going to guarantee a proper golf swing is fantasy land. I can take any hacker and put them into a textbook set up and they are going to make the same chopping swing at the ball regardless.

The set up can be used as preparation for somethings … set up… or transition. The problem is that set up is usually stagnant and impact and transition are moving and dynamic.

Most great players their head is going to be lower at impact than address. Often more knee flex and spine tilt. Hands are typically higher at impact for swingers. Some like Hogan had hands lower at impact with more wristcock. Hips are usually more open at impact as are shoulders…etc. Lots of changes going on.

Ideally, the focus should not be on impact but something beyond impact. Player hammered home the idea to swing through and accelerate beyond impact as did Moe and Hogan.

Moe used set up to aid in transition. He set the club well behind the ball to establish both backswing and downswing path along the 4:30 line. He told me that the most difficult move in the golf swing was getting from address over to the heart of the backswing. The set back of the club helped eliminate that. If one is trying to get the club loaded lower and behind the body, then a traditional set up doesn’t do much to contribute to that cause. Hogan’s 5 Lesson illustration of the shifted second plane suggests what Moe was suggesting just in a different way.

A young Tiger and an early Sam… top notch…
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Striking picture Irish…nice to hear from you again…hope all is well.

You too, RR, nice to see you… The quality squat is hard to resist alright… magic stuff…

In Watson’s book, I can’t remember the name of the book off the top of my head, and may be his only book but is at the range at the moment for me to quote from, but I recall Tom saying that Snead’s leg action was not all that great, which I found interesting. Looks mighty fine to me, so does Tom’s.

I kinda miss the Tiger of old…just seemed more fluid and something he was more comfortable with while kickin’ butt and takin’ names…and trophys.

Hey Bom…love the Tiger young pics
Amazing how kids react to the thing they are swinging. Here is a swing I just received today from Kim Felton of his 3 year old nephew. He’s a lefty and stays on the back foot a little but look at the instinct in how to use the club by utilizing the power of the body and not the hands and arms to move something that is probably a bit heavy for them at this point in time

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7:58 until the end contain some legendary strikers like Ben Hogan and Horton Smith.

The first pro swinging is Fred Hawkins and im wondering if anyone has any other footage or sequences or stills of his swing!
I read somewhere he played many practice rounds with Ben Hogan. :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFTYzYlaR4o

So if anyone can put some visuals up of Fred Hawkins that would be awesome.

p. s. This is my first post after 2 years of visiting this resource and I guess at this point I could begin to contribute!!!

I can see what Watson may have been talking about in terms of how he uses his legs through the impact zone. HIs backswing and transition leg action is perfect I reckon, but he is a bit flat footed and ‘upward’ with his thrust and ends up staying on his right foot the whole time. He doesn’t commit the right side through the shot as well as others do imo.
As for Tiger, it’s a testament to his talent what he’s done under Haney and the new guy. His recent win was borderline miraculous I’d say. As de’ old Irish saying goes, success comes down to de’ tree Ds- Desire, Dedication, and De’ will to win :slight_smile: He certainly has the de’ will to win in spades.

That’s savage, Two, I’d agree with that take alright. I remember Tiger talking about his habit of hooding the face/getting the shaft flat on the way back and he was ruing the fact that he’d used such heavy clubs as a youngster. I remember thinking that he’d missed the point of how valuable they actually were in training his golf muscles so well so young.
Here’s young Tiger through impact- if he was doing this now he’d win by a street every week I’d say…

looks like that swing would really hurt his back though. not sure how long he could have done it.

That squat almost looks more like Snead than Snead…like a caricature. Look how much his head as dropped!! Hasn’t he had some of his best years when his head dropped the most?

Yes great years when his head dropped, legs started transition and downswing that made the head drop. Working on this, went back and read Lags writings in the Moe Norman thread that he describes. His back looks the same as Greg Norman when striking his best, Two would know if Norman had anything with his back.

Yeah, I think you have to prioritize on hitting the ball well regardless, there aren’t too many sports where you leave your career in better shape than you entered it. Plus hitting the ball well requires perfect athleticism, so if someone is strong enough to do it well their career will be long enough to find out if they’re any good and they’ll make enough money to retire with a sore back:) The hand action that Tiger’s movement allowed him in this early sequence is just gold. The modern ‘back protecting’ swings leave a lot to be desired to say the least.
In terms of Tiger’s head drop, I think later with the Haney stuff, he started dropping his head without doing much to his COG, and just bluffed it by getting steep in the spine angle and right shoulder on the way down(the opposite of your description)- enabling that disastrous steep jump and flip that he mastered so well with his driver.
Btw, hello to everyone here, I’m not much for the internets anymore, but I hope everyone is well…
Cheers…