Awesome, man! Thanks very much for those…
BOM
Ralph Gudahl
Masters Champion & 2 Time United States Open Champion…with a pivot from hell!!!
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Found this footage on my HD… Must be from Geoff Jones.
For sure they all used flatter gear - visible thru the angle after impact -
Clubshaft - Arms… As a Vapor trail they had all the correct handpath…
Chris
Yes they sure did…
When I was growing up… any club pro within 50 miles could go out on a good day and shoot 67 with persimmon and blades.
Pros were required also to be good players in their own right. I remember our club had a pro am and Louie Garcia from the next course over shot 64 on our course with a set of Mac Pennas with a gamma fire insert and a set of MT Split Soles. There were so many more good players then. Some of the guys just didn’t want to tour and travel… preferred to stay home, raise a family and play the PGA sectional events and hit some of the Mondays for the local PGA Tour events.
I remember watching the pro at my club make the cut in the LA Open when another club pro- part time PGA player won the event beating all the regular tour players. (Pat Fitzsimons 1975) He was pretty much unknown at the time, and shot 64 at Riviera the 3rd round hitting persimmon and blades of course. No frying pans, no cavity backs, no long putters, no perfect felt like putting surfaces. They did all this with proper golf gear. So many great golf swings. That’s golfing the ball.
Give the modern tour players the old gear and balata, put them on courses with mediocre greens and courses that play as par 72 not 68 and it would be quite an eye opener.
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Wasn´t sure where to post - but interesting article about George Knudson, Golf Digest 1970:
Chris
I thought these were interesting:… BHSP posted them on another forum…no-one he compared swings to was remotely close to matching up to Hogan except this guy Calvin Peete. The p3 to finish point is remarkably similar
To paraphrase Morris from those old Jordan Nike commercials…‘Mike, it’s gotta be the footwork!’ (And a good pair of metal spikes)
Love this tutorial from Twomasters. See anyone out there doing this a lot?
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Calc is still the man when it comes to this move. Best I’ve seen that’s still playing at a high level.
Really? You don’t think Woodland or Mahan was close? Sergio?
Woodland actually reminds me very much of a stocky/linebacker Hogan swing. A brute. Yet shallow into impact, rotation through impact and swings left (even with MODERN driver!). What MORE do you want?:
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So who is closer where it counts?
Budman…
you left out the last bit of my post…or didn’t bother to take any notice of it…makes a world of difference…for the record I stated…
“[size=150]FROM p3 to FINISH POINT…no-one was as close as Peete was[/size]”
Mahan and Sergio were very close from P3 to P4…but not so much from P4 to finish…Woodland not that similar as shown above by ocat
If you look at the blue lines, you can see this is miles away from how Hogan transitioned the club and slotted it.
I wasn’t able to get a post impact frame capture… but it would not be working left as quickly either.
Like Immelman, it might look like Hogan from a quick glace, but the dynamics are not there in the way Hogan harnessed them.
Woodland has a very good golf swing… don’t get me wrong… as NFBandon likes to say… “it’s not Hogan”. 
Biggest difference here is Frame 3. They both definitely transition the club differently. Hogan obviously coming in under plane and Woodland coming in above plane. In Frame 4, Hogan is spot on his swing plane,as woodland is a little above it at impact.
In frame 5, I couldnt catch Hogans frame right after impact before the club disappears. So i matched them both up the best I can after impact. If you look closely, I made a white crosshair mark on the ball taking off at its position at that frame.
They both finish up high at P5.
While it may not be “exact” woodlands swing is similar more so than not.
Give him Hogans flat and heavy gear and he wouldnt be far off I would think. Its a bit hard to compare positions with suh a drastic difference in equipment type.
Id be happy to swing the club like him.
One great way to do it is to set yourself up so that you try to hook the hell out of the ball but you can’t because of how your gear is set up and your swing is designed. By trying to hook it… it’s hard to hit the ball right. So at that point, you are going to be a pretty straight ball striker. If you can rotate fast through and post impact, and generate a lot of pressure on the shaft with aggressive forearm rotation, you can hit it long also. Long and straight is a good formula.
Bruce Devlin.
A name often forgotten in the modern age, but one of the great Australian players who had a great run in the 1960’s.
Don’t think for a second you can’t go low hitting persimmon and blades.
Notice the shaft working correctly at right angles to the spine and slotting nicely on the 4:30 line with substantial knee flex, then arriving into impact at a very flat lie angle dissecting the chi line.
My first boss told me a story about Devlins win in the 1960 Australian Open as an amatuer.
On the 71st hole, a brute of a par 3, Devlin was tied for the lead. Devlin chose a 2 iron, to the back pin. His caddie shook his head " nah, ya need a 3 wood"
Again Devlin askes for the 2 iron, again his caddie refuses to pull the club.
Devlins insists a 3rd time, his caddie, rips the headcover off the 3 wood, yanks it out of the bag, tosses it onto the ground, and starts walking to the green !!!
Devlin laced the 3 wood to a foot and won the Open by a shot.
Steve
Here, Snead is taking the inside route going back (3)
At transition (7,8) you can really see the club slot and start working
back behind the body. This will be a familiar sensation here for Module 6
students.
Snead does a wonderful job of initiating transition with the legs, particularly
with the right knee. You can see how he flexes downward from (6 to 8)
continuing to flex down into (10).
Working the shaft at right angles to the spine (7,8,9) allows for an aggressive torso
rotation, a real body hit through the strike. Notice the clubface wide open (10)
which was set up by his increasing forearm rotation through transition. Super Slotting students here will appreciate this. This open face is the green light to HIT!
While the shoulders are pretty square at impact (12), they make a huge move open
between (12,13). The rotation is very level even for a man of his height (13).
Module 3 students here will notice “the LST crunch” (14)
Snead holds wristcock even with a 16 ounce driver (12) which
is pretty impressive stuff.
A classic finish with his upper left arm parallel to the ground (15) finishing with the shaft through his ears in good balance with the right foot still showing the imprint of
proper ground pressures by not flopping over to the right, something we don’t see much in the modern players.
Luis Siverio, said to be one of the best amateur ball strikers ever. First Asian player to play in The Masters. Great impact position, and a showman.
Gary Player at age 75!
For those deep into the ABS course… we see every Module at work here…
Wonderful to see Gary still with a masterful golf swing at age 75.
Nothing but inspirational!