Twomasters- swing thoughts of the past

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That video is from the Skins Game in Australia…it was up in Cairns and hotter than death up there with max humidity, so they let the guys wear shorts if they wanted. I believe Finchy, Grady and Rodger Davis were the other players

I think he did that hip move then as he had a much narrower stance…it got him behind the ball…but his right knee never buckled doing it. He was still reasonably solid and stable.
I really think this goes in line with the fact Norman kept his weight on his heels at address…he really felt pressure in that area. So the rock back goes along with that concept of weight back on heels and narrower stance instead of a hip turn around first move.
I felt the same thing and is noticeable in these older swings from 1989

[vimeo]http://vimeo.com/16232187[/vimeo]

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There is different feels for different people.
I always liked the feeling of restricting my hips on the way back as much as I could.
I did this with a narrow stance and a wide takeaway.
I believe this helped me feel the move down and lateral with my hips while my hands were still going back to the top.
this feel played an enormous part in my downcock and transition.
It kept the club behind me and got some huge lag in my downswing…which is all well and good…
JUST so long as you had the hand speed at the bottom to get the club back into the ball.
It also made me feel like I would never spin out of the shot
Lots of thoughts that I wouldn’t suggest people try unless they have the guns blazing at the bottom of the swing…
BUT
I had that speed at the bottom and so did Norman…so does Sergio from today’s golfers…
This is why we saw Norman hit those horrible block cuts at Augusta and Winged Foot…
NOT because of his lateral slide or anything technical… but because he tried to hit smooth shots under intense pressure
and his hands that were so used to firing thru the hitting area had to slow down for the smooth swing and he left the face open badly…

I honestly believe that narrow stance, hip restrict move discussed helped both of us with our ground forces…
and then we see what happens to the right foot gripping and giving out later in the throughswing with the speed and rotation

Moe had a wide stance, so too did Doug sanders…Lag likes a wide stance…I did better with a narrower stance…just my feel for what I was doing with my swing
I know as I got coached my stance got wider, my set of the club happened quicker and then I was a bit of a lost soul most of the time with my downswing and thruswing as I lost my feel for the strike

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Two…do you have any current DTL videos of you…or maybe a link to them. Maybe from your last trip down under- which by the way has some of the coolest names on the planet: Wagga Wagga…Toowoomba…Joondalup. I couldn’t make those up if I tried :laughing:

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Cheers, man, the narrow stance hadn’t crossed my mind really, but it’s a very good point.
I wonder what that ‘restrict the hips’ thought really produced. I reckon it went a long way to limiting the motion between your legs and feet to being lateral for the most part. Like Hogan, and even Nelson, you both unloaded the outside of the left foot almost as one piece. Hogan talked about the knees always working towards eachother, and I think there’s some of that in that thought. That video of you somehow manages to cut out just the left foot which is the thing I’m talking about, but you can see it in some of them.
Norman especially was almost all lateral in his lower half. Not that he swayed, but that he was contained within his legs. Your point about not spinning out was very revealing, because if the lower half isn’t working in an overall rotational manner, then it would have no urge to spin out. I find a great benefit from visualizing the swing in terms of bones and to see and contemplate what they’re doing. I reckon ultimately they’re the things we use for real leverage so they have to be in place when the time comes.
The more I thought about my un-Hogan comment re: Norman, the more I thought it may have been wrong. Because Hogan did do that little rock action into his right hip on the way back, even though he talked about it sticking like a pole.

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RR,
I haven’t looked at my swing for almost 10 months-- so I honestly don’t have anything recent…I will come up with stuff from a few years ago when i can splice something together…it’s a ‘pretty’ swing as most instruction and thoughts would suggest or how they describe it on the tube…but it was not dynamic and I was full of fear to swing at the ball because it was giving me zero feel in my hands and body…
It became a very careful action that was meant to make me better but became a constant battle of steering, slowing down and trying to look like the norm… I started playing safe and felt like every day was a grind and a battle because it wasn’t in my swing DNA to do the move I ended up doing…now if ABS was around back then it would have been an entirely different story…Lag was the first person who ever told me my old swing was great and an ideal motion, so here we are trying to rebuild…maybe the senior tour in 6 years time?

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RR
Here’s a down the line swing and a face on swing from August 2007…wasn’t long after this I shelved the clubs and stopped playing…got sick and tired of just going through the motions and having to continually go grind in a search for a swing and a ball flight and control and distance…I just had enough of not having a feel for striking the ball how I used to back in the 80’s thru the mid 90’s… then thankfully 6 months later I found Lag and started finding some normal ideas and sensations again based around what I knew I used to do.
This 07 swing is wider stance, earlier set, slower swing speed because I had no feel for the club, it was too much down the line steep, the gap between my belt and butt of the grip is too large and the hands had to roll over through the hit, lost my footwork…everything…like I said it looks pretty enough in regular speed but dynamically it was so far removed from my early swing it is incredible.
that’s the problem with getting outside assistance for golfers who are naturally talented… when the instructor doesn’t know what you are feeling with your swing…and they try to make it pretty based on books and golf channel stuff instead of functional and workable from own experiences…
Long live Lag!!! for allowing me to find a feel for my swing again.
I don’t video my swing any more. I haven’t seen it for 9 months or so…I base my swing on feel and the ball…just like I did when I was younger… If the feel and the ball flight and control are in tune then I don’t care what the swing looks like…I have seen far too many lines drawn all over my swing on computer screens to analyze things in this lifetime… :smiley:

[vimeo]http://vimeo.com/20378357[/vimeo]

[vimeo]http://vimeo.com/20378208[/vimeo]

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Thanks Two.

Big difference to my eyes regarding the footwork. Although I couldn’t get the “Vimeo” time bar thingy to disappear while playing, the R foot foot action looked quite different from what I could see That’s what I was primarily looking at- footwork. . Other than that, as you say, it looks good at speed overall; and kind of reminds me of O’Meara going back. But again like you said…what it looks like to others and what it feels like to you can be worlds apart- especially internal pressures and sensations. :slight_smile:

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Yep…once the tuition I received got me all concerned about the backswing and setting early and worrying about big muscles my entire bottom half became a distant memory…therein lies the lack of ground forces and footwork and leg action…that early backswing set and turning and using the big muscles took away my feel for the club and my hand speed and what I really needed to do… because I ended up with no resistance with my lower half and feet…so my top half ruled the roost and timing became an issue. I had to end up slowing everything down because I had no basis in the ground to work with and my early set took away all my load of the club…I couldn’t go hit it hard because I somehow knew if I did, I would never find my ball half the time
So I went from near the top of the driving distance pile to way back in the pack, especially once the new equipment came along and helped everyone gain distance, whilst pretty much still hitting the same amount of fairways, therefore losing an advantage I had of long straight driving.
So long dynamics :arrow_right: :smiling_imp: Hello big muscle powder puffs :arrow_right: :smiling_imp:

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Two,

I know you mentioned playing with Faldo, was that at The Memorial? I think you mentioned how surprised you were that Faldo, as big a guy as he was,
hit the ball very short. Was this the direction your instructor (s) at the time were thinking your swing should go?

From I remembered of your game in the early 90’s, you hit the ball fantastic, and it just seemed you needed to just play a lot of events and wait for the putter to have it’s hot weeks. There is always a desire to improve. Was there a certain shot you were trying to eliminate? or you were occasionally having off weeks and felt something wasn’t right?

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First time I played with Faldo was a practice round with IBF and Faldo at Memorial in 1994. So this was only 2 years after his last British Open win and he then went on to win The Masters 2 years later for the 3rd time.
He was using persimmon as was I. His ball from the tee honestly sounded like a pea coming from a straw. I was absolutely shocked by how little zip his drives had on them for such a huge mountain of a man.
That is about the time I got coached and was starting to trend towards the same motion because I guess coaching at that time was based around Faldo and of course Leadbetter’s teachings because he was his coach.
I really didn’t know if he was just having a bad day, but his drives had nothing on them. Maybe I should have taken more notice of that once I started losing my zip with my driver too…but as far as I was being told I was doing the right thing :unamused:
I wasn’t really trying to eliminate any type of bad shot. It was about the time i really started coming to the USA to play and was going to Europe also and Japan and was having long stints away from home, 3 to 4 months at a time, so I thought I maybe should have a pair of eyes to watch over me just in case things did go astray… :blush: unfortunately the good parts that made my swing tick were lessened and although I had my moments it was truly a day to day battle…which I never really had in the past. Sure I would have a bad round every now and then but everyone had those… I was told I could eliminate my bad scores by tidying my swing up…which sounded good at the time…BUT…it didn’t have much bearing on my bad scores…a bad day went from a 76 to a 74…the huge issue was that my good score went from a 65 or 66 to a 70… and you know as a pro you don’t do that well shooting 70-74 every day…it’s the break out 64’s and 66’s that bring you up close to the running on Sunday afternoons.

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How much do you think Faldo’s action really changed regarding his basic ball flight from before Ledbetter to after? Maybe we don’t know that question, but I have an old Masters tape I’ll get around to posting that had Faldo playing pretty well in the mid 80’s… my guess is he was never a very long hitter. Regardless, there is something to be said for hitting the ball straight.

You were probably playing your best golf around 1998? Your swing seemed basically the same then from viewing the tapes. When did it seem really out of wack? Was it early in the 2000’s or mid 2000’s that you really felt it was not what it once was? I think you still won out on the Nationwide in 2004?

Do you remember the things you were working on year to year through that time?

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I never saw Faldo play pre Leadbetter except on television…his record was pretty good before his overhaul around the end of 1985—

from 1977 -1984 he won 11 times on The European Tour and had 1 win on the US Tour…

1977-1984 he only played the Masters 3 times and had a 15th and a 20th
1977-1984 he only played the US Open once for a 55th
1977=1984 he played the PGA 3 times for a 14th and a 20th
1977-1984 he played the British Open each year with no missed cuts and finishes of 7th,19th,12th,11th, 4th, 8th 6th
Those efforts are nothing to be sneezed at. So he obviously had game…

I remember his old swing as I used to have it on videos from the British Open…he had more leg drive…more active feet and legs
I am convinced he would have hit the ball farther back then, or at least close to par with most of them except the real long hitters… plus he had the added bonus of precision…

I am a little unsure why he felt his swing let him down as that is an awesome record no matter who you are…
Obviously he had great success from 1987 onwards after the changes…but I honestly think it did him in later on
He was a real good putter during that run also from 1987-1992

The guy is fit as a fiddle and if you have never stood next to him, he is a mountain…but once all this technology came along…he had big muscles poking the ball around but no power to keep up with everyone and he really eased out of competition without much of a whimper later on…He won Doral in 95 the Masters in 1996 and the Nissan in 97 and then the big clubs came out and that was the end of it unfortunately.

Even now he doesn’t play The Masters or The British and sits in the booth commentating…and has done that for a few years now…he knew he was done a long time ago because of distance issues and just faded off into the booth for that reason…it wasn’t from lack of desire or from being away from home, as he spends more weeks on the road now from his commentary…he just knew he couldn’t compete with his massive lack of distance

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I remember Faldo saying the main reason for changing his swing was because he used to balloon the ball and couldn’t control it in the wind. From reading his few books, it seems that the main focus was stabilizing his leg action. Like you point out, he did have those slide legs that were big in the 70’s. Then it became that whole legs are a platform to rotate over stuff- which is almost a perfect description of those two swings you posted. Dead(stable) legs and right shoulder. In my opinion I wouldn’t call it an upper body action, because the upper left side of the body is non existent through the strike, so you can’t get any real acceleration or that height up to the finish- it just kind of folds out of the way.
I remember playing in a youth event at Rosses Point around the British Open time, and Faldo swung by to warm up- it was probably 92 or 93. It was a big buzz because nobody knew about. I came in from my round and was taking off my shoes and he walked into the locker room. I did this head shake double take. It was funny. He is a giant! A very large man. My perception of him may also have been something to do with me worshipping him at the time. Anyway, a few of us went out to follow him and I literally couldn’t believe how short, low, and delicately he hit the ball. It was as if he was afraid of breaking either the ball, or his driver. He pured his irons for sure, but they were still soft, they weren’t ripped by any stretch. What was funnier is that after about 5 holes, I think everyone in Sligo heard he was there, and the place was packed. He got really pissy because it was meant to be a quiet practice round on the down low, and he walked in off the course in a huff. Lets just say my hero came crashing down to earth on every front imaginable. I wept long into the night :cry:

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Lag,
My best golf was from 1987-1996…after that it really became a battle as technology started to take off. I lost more and more feel for the clubhead and my swing felt even more un-natural. Distance started being harder for me as I lost my swing speed by trying to be a big muscle turner from the coaching I received.
I used persimmon most of the time right through 1996. I used a Bridgestone J driver a few times here or there and a Founders Fresh metal here and there and then a Cobra metal towards the end of 1996.

Here is a quick timeline:

1987-- Won Victorian Junior Champ- Won Victorian Amateur- Leading Amateur Australian Open

1988- Won Victorian Amateur- Won New Zealand Amateur- Leading Amateur Aust Masters- Semi Finalist Australian Amateur–Turned Pro Played 10 cuts made of 10 events with a win Western Australia Open- 7th Tasmanian open- 8th South Australian open- 12th New South Wales Open

1989- Played events in Australia, Japan, Europe, Canada and USA…18 cuts made of 24 events…- 2nd New South Wales Open- 4th Kuzuha (Japan)- 8th BCOpen (Canada)- 9th Benson & Hedges (Europe)
10th Australian TPC- 12th Aust PGA and 3rd at European Tour School

1990- Played in Australia and Europe- …19 cuts made of 33 events… 4th Palm meadows (Aust)- 7th Tenerife (Europe)- 9th Coolum (Aust)

1991- Played in Australia and Canada…15 cuts made of 18 events… 2nd Windsor (Canada :smiling_imp: behind Lag)… 2nd Tasmanian Open- 4th Aust Matchplay- 7th South Aust Open- 11th Johnnie Walker Classic (Aust)

1992- Played in Australia and Japan…19 cuts made of 24 events…2nd Palm Meadows…4th Aust Masters…3rd Aust PGA…4th Malaysian masters…and had a 6 week run in Japan of 17th, 14th, 12th, MC, 2nd and 8th

1993- Played in Australia, Japan, USA…22 cuts made of 30 events…Won Aust Masters- 2nd Victorian Open (Aust) -7th South Australian open- 7th Aust PGA- 9th Singapore Open- 19th World Series (USA) and I had a run in Japan of 9th, 20th,10th 34th and 6th in April and then another run later in the year in Aug/Sept in Japan of 6th, 22nd, 9th, 6th

1994- Played in Australia, Europe, USA and Japan…Played in US Open, British Open and Presidents Cup…20 cuts made of 29 events …2nd Aust TPC- a 12th and 17th in Vic Open and Aust PGA and a 13th and a 12th in Japan

1995- Had a bad divorce…came 5th in Heineken Classic (Aust) moved to USA and just played some mini tours in Florida as well as qualifying for US Open at Shinnecock

1996- Played in Australia, Europe and USA…Played in British Open …24 cuts made of 30 events.…Won TPC of Australia- 2nd Aust Masters- 3rd Queensland Open- 6th South Australia Open- 6th Johnnie Walker (Europe) -8th Heineken (Europe)- 20th in British masters and European masters- 9th in BC Open & Houston Open (USA)- Got card at US Tour School for 1997

1997-Played in USA…20 cuts made of 36 eventsPlayed US Open…8th BC Open- 13th Canadian Open- 16th US Open at Congressional

1998- …13 cuts made of 31 events…Played US Masters…I won the Aust Masters and came 2nd at CVS Classic in Boston area- 4th at Canadian Open- 4th at Michelob at Kingsmill- 8th at Holden Classic (Australia)…but the rest of it all was a disaster…At Aust Open/CVS/Michelob I absolutely putted the spots off the ball…it was a real poor year of striking for the majority even though I did lead total driving on US Tour that year

1999- 21cuts made of 36 eventsPlayed US Open- British Open and PGA Championship…- 2nd at Kemper Open (played great)…10th in Houston- 15th at Honda Classic and Nissan Open at Riviera…rest of year was rubbish…fell down 90 spots on driving distance because of lack of swing speed and larger equipment helping the sub standard golfer gain distance

2000- 14 cuts made of 33…5th Nissan Open at Riviera- 8th at Torrey Pines- 12th Bob Hope and 5th at Michelob at Kingsmill… made about 250,000 the first 6 weeks of the year and then had to finish well in a late event to actually keep my card as I was bubble boy (did so with 5th at Kingsmill)…really poor middle of the year

2001- 15 cuts made of 34 events…3rd Kemper Open- 10th John Deere…and that was that…missed 7 cuts by one shot and finished 126th on money list by $94 to Woody Austin and lost my card

2002-- (14 cuts of 30 events) and 2003 --(10 cuts of 27 events) were a disaster on the Nationwide Tour- really lost my feel for the swing- too muc video work and computer screens and trying to get by with a scientific approach based on someone elses’ logic… not my own logic-- wasted years…2002 was especially difficult playing PGA Tour and nationwide Tour. because I came 126th I still got in some PGA events (about 20 of them) but half the time I didn’t know until the last minute if I would get in the events or not…had to watch the entries and withdrawels…this added huge expense to my travel by booking last minute airfares and I wasn’t prepared very well not knowing where I would be playing any given week

2004–(21 cuts made of 29 events)… went back to shorter backswing so I could at least feel some aggression through the ball… played much better winning the Wichita Open (Nationwide) and coming 2nd in New Zealand PGA- 4th in Boise Open and 4th in Australian Masters…but had a really incredible putting year…won my card back to PGA Tour

2005- back on PGA Tour…played 24 events on PGA and Nationwide and only made 6 cuts

2006 –made 14 of 24 cuts…Played British Open(qualified in 4 spot in Australia)…had a 2nd at Cleveland and a 4th in Richmond Virginia (both nationwide) but that was basically it

2007 and 2008-- I really wound it down and stopped playing as I was at my wit’s end…not knowing how to swing…I felt like I was doing everything I was told to be doing by the results and feel just weren’t right. I was waiting for something to click that made the game easy and it didn’t. I lost my entire confidence with my game which really filtered into my chipping and pitching… I lost my feel for those shots too because of the swing changes creeping in that area of my game also…getting steep and flippy with the hands…I couldn’t chip well, so hitting greens became more important than ever and I couldn’t do that as well either…so i was pretty much wasting my time and my money by trying any longer

Well that was a longer summary than I imagines but it may give some insight about a few things…lots and lots of missed cuts later on when my swing had become less natural and the equipment had deteriorated any feeling I had for my old motion…the changes crept into my short game over time and confidence was low…The changes were meant to help me gain consistency but it was not good… I was consistently tinkering and trying to find what I was told to be doing. I lost my feel for the club and for impact and for body motion and footwork…that’s why it is a pleasure to be here at ABS because all this stuff we talk about here is gold…it really does go along with my old swing sensations, which worked much, much better for me than the generic stuff I got fed later on.

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Let’s hear about this year more…
Some if not the best golf you ever played, mixed with some of the worst? Not many cuts made, but when you made them, a win, a second, two fourths, and an 8th makes for a great year.

Did you hit a hot streak in the middle of poor play? or was it just good, bad, bad, bad, good, bad, bad, bad, good… that kind of thing.
Hard to believe you were hitting it too poorly if you lead the PGA Tour in total driving. That’s one of the strongest ball striking statistics out there.

Would be interesting to hear how that year flowed if you can remember…

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Link to article from The New York Times / 1992
select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract. … 94DA494D81

…More frustrated than he had ever been since 1985, when he decided to rebuild his swing under the guidance of David Leadbetter, Faldo finally decided he had to reassess his game and himself…

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1998

I started off in Johnnie Walker Classic in Phuket Thailand- Missed Cut…the Heineken in Perth- Missed Cut…started to play a bit better at Holden Event in Sydney but putted awful…I hit 63 greens out of 72 greens in reg at The Australian that week and only shot 8 under (came 8th I believe)
So I was getting my ball striking back but couldn’t putt. Spent 2 days practicing my putting with a rail and voila…hit the ball great at The Masters 18 greens, 14 greens, 18 greens, 15 greens in reg and made a bunch of putts also…won that Masters by 5 shots with a record 24 under.
I flew back to America for Tucson, only to find people had entered over the weekend after entries closed and the time zone factor…so I wouldn’t get to play?? The weird rules of the tour…so I flew back to Orlando, where I lived, for 4 days before turning around and going all the way back to Australia to compete in the Tour Championship. I had to play 5 events to qualify for the money list down there and with one final good event I could have earned entry into the British Open, maybe the US Open and I was already in The World Series from winning the Masters. Played awful shooting 76 the second day and missed the cut, so that was a waste of time and miles
I couldn’t get int the early west coast events because of my PGA ranking, that’s why I went to those European/Aussie events at the start of the year.
Flew back to America ready for a huge year and everything went sour.
Went to Valencia for LA Open-76-81 15 over!!!
Then couldn’t get in any PGA events in March at all either…Honda Classic,Doral, Bay Hill and TPC…did not get in one of them as I was coming out of the q-school
My next event was New Orleans 73-80…then onto Augusta with zero play and zero confidence 75-78…Greensboro 74-78…Houston I came almost last after making the cut rounding off with a 77
I was hitting mishits and started seeing the ball going either way… I had no clue where I was hitting the ball…
I honestly don’t know how my stats were so good for that year…but stats can lie as I will show later.
Atlanta I scored a 77 , Kemper Open a 78, Westchester a 79…I mean these scores are awful for a pro on the PGA…and they were happening week after week.
In July I started going a little better but still went missed cut, missed cut, 56th…then the next week I went to Pleasant Valley near Boston, a course I had done awful at my 2 previous times, so I went with no expectations. I changed to a fat lady putter like Nick Price used when he was going so well and did the same routine as him…putter in front, line it up, move the putter back behind and go… I came up with this idea from driving to the course with a Bob Rotella tape on…go figure…anyhow I birdied the last 4 holes Saturday and Sunday and ended up tied 2nd…it absolutely came from no where. I didn’t play much different. But I putted unbelievable, and that helped me get some confidence as the week went on.
I finished off the year reasonably solid…Canada I birdied the last 3 holes to sneak inside the cut then birdied the last 3 again on saturday and then the final day, I stiffed one, holed a bunker shot on 13 for eagle, birdied a couple more and everyone else was going backwards…I went for the 18th in 2 shots with a 4 iron and came up about one yard short and one yard too far right and went in the water and made a bogey 6 which dropped me to 8 under…I thought if I could eagle the last and get to 11 under I would have a shot as the leaders still had 9 holes to go, but didn’t work out, but worth the gamble.
The Michelob at Kingsmill I again absolutely putted my socks off and came 4th there, just with steady rounds of 2-3 under each day
The thing I remember about that year was I started to notice my driving distance coming backwards…my iron shots were not peppering the flags…I had misses going in all directions and my distance control started to taper off…I may have hit a bunch of greens but I was often struggling for 2 putts or birdies. I started missing greens with simple wedge shots, and my misses became ugly…in the worst spots possible to try and get up and down. I started to get way too swing conscious and for the first time really in my life I got to the stage of not knowing how to fix something when it went off the boil…because i was now a golfing robot and not a player…

1998 Stats: Driving Distance 279.7 Tied 21st
Driving Accuracy 72.7% 50th
Greens In Reg 69.4% 9th
Total driving 4th I actually ended up 4th (maybe I was leading it thru the year?)…top 5 were Sutton, Duval, Waldorf, Me and then Nick Price
Ball Striking 4th ( 4th in total driving 9th in Greens)… behind Sutton, Duval, Forsman
Putting Ave 1.817 Tied 164th
Scrambling 47% 188th (LAST on Tour)
Putts Per Round 30.54 188th (LAST on tour)

Obviously the putting stats can lie as you will see a guy who hits more greens in reg have worse putting stats…Lehman & Sutton & Durant were always down the bottom with me in the putting because we hit more greens than most…
I just felt I didn’t strike the ball well this year even though my stats may show otherwise. This was when I really started to struggle with the feel of my swing and didn’t know how to fix it. Every now and then I would come up with something, but I would go stretches of holes wondering what was going on. I used to be able to get a feel for what I was doing and remedy it quickly…now I had no feel and had to go grind balls in the hope something clicked and came back. I never used to practice that much in my early days as a pro…I would just go play and run with what I knew. Now I didn’t know what to run with…
My good weeks were obviously all about putting in 1998…making more putts for birdies and saving more pars with good putts. That’s the same for everyone, but that was how I got my really good results that year, not really from being a flushing machine except in those 2 early events in Aust …The Holden and The Masters where I struck it as well as anyone could.

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Just putting for 2 days, or was there some range time as well…and if there was range time, was it any more or less than usual? :slight_smile:

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No range work at all…putted…played the pro-am tuesday…no practice round monday or wednesday, no range balls any day except to warm up for pro- am

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Phenomenal insight, man. Thanks…
When did you switch to Ping, or at what point did you stop using blades? Did you switch shaft flex at any point? I’m assuming your base flex is some sort of X.