Thoughts on Ben Hogan

That picture on page 19 has been interesting to me for a spell, and not too long ago I made some real time connection to it as it pertains to electrical circuits. Although the word used in the book is “power”, it can clearly be seen as an electrical charge when viewing the lightning bolt representing the shaft.

We were about to change the battery in one of our tractors in a few days and the mechanic told me to place the battery in the garage, but not on the cement floor. He requested the battery be placed on a board on top of the cement. No problem.
Days later I asked him why the need for a board. He said because the ground will pull the positive charge from the battery. “What?” I asked. He said the ground is negative and the battery is positive and the positive will always go to the negative, thus draining the battery if not place upon a board.

Hit me like a ton of bricks it did. The secret in the dirt is that dirt is negative ground just like a lightning rod directs energy into the ground, because positive energy always seeks ground. Or, just like any power circuit needs to be grounded to be complete.
The mechanic and me talked for quite a while about what he said and I was amazed at the amount of direct similarities between circuits, ground use, the picture on page 19, and good ball striking motion.

Here are just a couple. The power source always seeks ground, so even though it may be going away from ground momentarily it finds the path of least resistance so it can be close to ground ( short arm and hand travel ). This one I like a lot. The longer the ground, the less power. The legs are the ground connection and once power is stored in the upper assemblies, while still seeking ground, the ground circuit needs to be shorter for efficient power flow (increasing knee flex ). If the legs straighten up the ground connection is longer and thus gives less power. In other words, a ground connection of a few inches is far more powerful, given the same amount of energy, than a ground connection of 50 feet.

Some other ones too, that I have packed away in the Rat nest, but some strong connections being made in Ratville.
The picture on the left is missing the ground. We are the positive up top, our legs are the negative lead connection to ground and the ground must be used for proper transfer of power, by making the negative lead shorter. The goat humpers have lost some ground connection.

The best part for me was, simply seeing things in a new way cleared up some things which changed all at once based on an idea and concept……and……my right foot slipped just like Hogan’s. :slight_smile:

Hello Bom,

Ben said something like his upper right arm travelled parallel to the target line through impact. The image seems to support that. (I doubt my memory of what he said is right enough; it’s only my interpretation, right or wrong, from what I read somewhere.) And there are other things the darkest areas show like the constancy of the general body tilt and the right thigh, the sense of overall compactness, everything going through together as a whole, and then there’s the shadow of his club shaft on both sides of the ball position, a consequence of the entire function, a projection of his general and specific intention. But this is merely my subjective interpretation. Chiefly, I wonder what Ben Hogan would think and say, if he could see this of himself, and what inspired you to achieve this and what you think.

Thanks.

RR -

Pretty cool to think that Hogan dnyamo illustration may be showing a “rotary converter” - rather awesome terminology.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_converter

Good one Drewspin!

That lightning bolt represents voltage pressure, so shaft pressure is the electrical charge to the load. The little ‘sunburst’ looking thing is the load, or lightbulb…and it kind of looks like a glowing lightbulb to me. So the golfball is a lightbulb in a circuit and the power source brings pressure to the load by way of paths. If the voltage ( shaft ) pressure gets away from the hands, then the light will glow but dimly, but keep the pressure intact and the bulb glows brightly. Those little transformers in the elbows are pretty interesting too.

Gotta run for now…have a date with an electrical charge: 220 volts for the Rat. :laughing:

The butt and the crotch become one :open_mouth: …shaft butt that is :laughing: …with proper rotation of the forearms and the pivot is moving allowing it to happen and sending a charge right down and past the load on the ground late…all the while keeping the voltage pressure married to the central motor core. What a day. :slight_smile:

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that really is a good analogy mr rat :slight_smile:

Seeing how much the left elbow rotates p3 to p4; shows how important the left hand M1 drills are to me.

I worked on a few ‘feels’ at the range yesterday, and I’m almost certain that the right knee controls your consistency. Of course the proper pivot and cohesive turn through the ball are key fundamentals for good contact, but the right knee seemed to controlled my lowpoint in the swing. For example, when putting using a wide stance sort of like a ‘riding a horse’ position - my follow-through would feel quite restricted. Once I allowed my back knee to tilt towards the target, I could extend further down the target line while still maintaining my spine angle. Tell me what you guys think. It seemed the right knee could connect post-impact to my feet(ground pressure) so to speak.

Nice picture sequence of Hogan up above.

I really think the image of the left hip snap back in 5 Lessons is misleading. I used to think of it as some type of clearing move to allow velocity to happen. Now, looking at that picture and knowing a little more these days, it is clear to me the left hip is really a power assist mechanism to thrust that shaft up plane. Heck, even my grip has changed a touch in order to do that. Easy change, but probably would not have realized the need for the change if still seeing the left hip as a participant to allow pure velocity only. The left hip is still getting out of the way, but in response to it being a power assist device, and certainly not as the first thing from the top. It feels like the hips and shaft are on the same angle post impact and that the hips are ripping that puppy upward. It’s feels like I could bump the angled shaft upward with my hips post impact as the shaft gets in front of the hips. :slight_smile:

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The second clip and its title brings up a thought, and a question, on Hogan’s action, and ‘release’.

While receiving instruction on the Hogan swing I was taught his release and I got in a bit of a (friendly) argument with the teacher. The lesson was an epiphany of sorts, and I said to the instructor: “OK, I get it, so Hogan didn’t release the club!” He said he did, “he did it this way”, and he showed me again. I told him that that was not a release. Back and forth, all in good fun…

To tell you the truth, I never got it then and I still don’t get it. In above video, I do not think Hogan releases the club. Maybe he did so after the video ends, but not until then, in my opinion.

Am I wrong? If so, can you explain what Hogan’s release is?

A lot of stuff can get lost in translation. I try to give instructors or good players the benefit of a doubt. Sometimes you just have to understand their action and then fill in the missing pieces that create what they are feeling.

For instance, “cutting it left” is really a swinger’s reference to keeping the shaft on plane. Most swingers don’t, but instead dump out to right field, straighten the right arm out to “release” the club. So it feels like cutting left to a swinger.

Cutting it left is just normal to me at this point. I strike the ball with essentially the two rotations.

Now if one is viewing releasing the club to wristcock angles… well, that does need to happen. If you don’t uncock the wrists some you will whiff the ball completely. One must get the clubhead down to the ball. If one were to hold ALL wristcock and rotate their torso, you would be swinging the club a foot or two above the ball… so there is a release of some sorts there. We also must release the rotation of our torso and forearms. The torso must be released with muscular effort. No way around that. The forearms can either also be released with muscular effort or can be released more passively with a CF dump and roll. Two polar extremes… and one who doesn’t give in to CF should be feeling a pull against CF or what I like to call
the orbit pull.

It’s not so different from a door hitting the jamb. Who is closing the door? You? The wind? A ghost? We have to square up the face if we open it up on the way back or through transition. We are going to do this through either rotation, duel rotation (forearm rotation with torso rotation) or we are going to simply come OTT. OTT happens because a player lacks forearm rotation… fears it… or doesn’t know how to do it …or lacks the strength needed to do it or any combination there of.

So the door hits the jamb… then what happens? It stops… or it breaks the jamb and closes into the adjacent room… or it hits the jamb and then starts trying to move the whole wall. The wall is your pivot. Hogan hit the jamb then used his pivot to rotate the entire house.

Great post Lag…

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Thank you for your insights…

Chris

He certainly got the important message across. I hope I may have helped him explain the term ‘release’ better to future students, even when I was a lost cause!

OK, I think I finally get what ‘release’ means now. I saw it as letting go of the club (well, not entirely!), rather than a release of stored power.

I agree with Chris. This was great. Thank you!

Yep, this is a world class post. The pivot is the wall, move the whole damn house!

The impact bag work we do in Module #1 is like strengthening then adding motors to the door hinges as well as swapping out a hollow door for one made of solid oak. This gets us slamming the jamb with much more pressure, structure and control.
We need to have an opposing force to hit into to develop our structure pre impact.

The forearm rotation slams into impact and essentially stops… it doesn’t keep rotating… just like the door hitting the jamb. A door hinge only needs 180 degrees of range of motion. Not so different than our forearm rotation. Most players and teachers limit forearm rotation to 90 degrees… but this is not correct. There is more available to all of us… but we need to develop a bit of strength to properly access this… as well as learn the correct spacial awareness protocols which the SS students here know can be tricky.

This one - two punch of forearm rotation followed up by torso rotation is one of the great master secrets of top level ball striking. It’s something very much missing in today’s modern tour players. This is thrust, not just a cry for velocity.

The torso rotation post impact must be > greater than the thrust created by the forearm rotation. If this is done correctly, you essentially remove timing from the golf swing just as Hogan discussed in 5 Lessons.

Timing is having to deal with something out of your control. You release… or let go of control in a premeditated manner in hope of a satisfactory result.

If you only release in a controlled way, controlled by muscular tension and contraction, then you take the timing element out of the golf swing.

This is the best way to play great golf under pressure.

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Good information John!

I learn a little more everytime this topic is explained again and again from different examples and wording.

I have always debated back and forth if we were trying to hold open the club face all the way thru impact or to turn the forearms over right before impact. But after reading these explanations just recently posted and watching Bradley Hughes impact video again, we are to fire our forearms into impact then let the pivot overtake the rest. Just like how John explains the 1-2 punch sequence.

I think many of us gets confused on the difference between firing of the forearms and releasing/dumping of the hands. Bradley Hughes explains this pretty clearly in his Impact video. We are not to flip over our hands but only rotate our forearms to square the club head and no further than that. Having our arms pinned to the body helps restricts the tendency to flip our hands over at impact. But by that time, your pivot should be kicking into gear to out race the hands from flipping over.

It takes conditioning and strength of the forearms to fire into impact and at the same time hold off the CF wanting to flip our hands over.

So overall if i understand this correctly, we come in shallow with lots of forearm rotation stored up on the 4:30 line, meaning the club face should be wide open with our right palm facing the sky and the club being behind us with our shoulders still being closed. And as we go thru P3 (module 1), we rotate our forearms back to square the club face to the ball (hitting the door Jam), then use our body with the aid of ground forces (module 2) to pivot thru the rest of the swing (blasting past the door Jam, moving the whole house off its foundation) so that we can retain as much shaft flex as we can all the way to finish (module3).

If you think about it, its an ingenious method of hitting the ball. We just have to learn how to do it! :wink:

I am posting Bradley Hughes Impact video here. I think it helps clear up alot of things that many of us may have questions on.

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My feelings too. The R knee controls the low point in my swing. I feel like I sit down on it. When I do this, things go well.