Thoughts on Ben Hogan

Best to post this question in the Module 3 private student forum so that an answer would be in the proper context.

Im not sure if this has been discussed in this thread but i just saw this 30s swing of Hogan and i was really surprised, this swing looks much longer and weak postimpact compared to his later swings. Does anyone know what he worked on to make such dramatic changes in his release and the postimpact part of his swing? I know his 1940s swing and beyond swing is considered one of the best ever when it comes to the module 3 part of the swing, but it seemed like in this swing he wasnt doing a very good job with that. It said in the caption that he made some changes through trial and error and help from other pros, has he discussed these changes in any interviews or any of his books?

youtube.com/watch?v=oURjm5XeNm0&feature=plcp

I really like this swing up until it looks he’s trying to hold off flipping it post impact. I’m trying to incorporate his backswing and transition intentions in my superslotting work. You can really see how deep he gets the club in the slot from the down-the-fairway view. One thing I’m learning is you have to be really aggressive with a heavy persimmon driver and Hogan certainly was that…

The Over the Camera view really shows it. He just had so much speed coming into impact that he could not sustain it with the post impact rotation. He did get that sorted out later on and took a bit timing element out of the swing.

My guess is he swapped out some “arm travel” for forearm rotation which if done correctly will sequence the hands and pivot better.

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swapped out some “arm travel” for forearm rotation

Lag–does more forearm rotation give you a shorter arm and hand travel?

Welcome to your search for Hogan’s “secret”.

My personal thoughts are that he got in a car accident (not recommended) which shortened things up considerably and then he discovered the angled hinge post impact which he swapped in for a crossover type release.

If you go with a flat backswing, short arm travel - hand travel… then you better explore adding proper forearm rotation or you will not hit the ball well. This is exactly what Hogan did later on and why he could still bomb it.

Collision with a Greyhound Bus on a narrow bridge in the fog? Is that an ABS Module 13 drill?

Im pretty sure that he was using the angled hinge release post impact before the accident.

I just read this article on the Hogan-Snead match it has some interesting information in it. According to the article Hogan never hit a shot during the match more than 10 feet off the line of flight he intended it to travel.

sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/ … /index.htm

He did. There’s a couple of youtube video of his swing before the accident, but after the ‘secret’ release. Even when Hogan filmed “Hard Case from Texas”, that was before the accident. He really didn’t lose that much from it as far as his technique in his swing, but his putting on the other hand, was a different story. Hogan said he lost 12yds off his drive. Talk about precision. I believe Tiger would be tied with Hogan if Hogan had not been in an accident imo.

Thank you for that article. I had no idea that dream match was played over the course of two days. Let alone 2 holes per hour. Very interesting read.

GARY PLAYER 2001

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thanks to drewit for this scan

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These guys are definitely not “Throwing Momma from the Train”. :laughing:
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John, can you share what exactly he told you about Hogan personal shafts ? Would be interested to know more about your monster shaft build as well. Maybe you can post pictures ?

Tried to capture some of the stages in one here…
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Worth another view…
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNlUKLPFwQE[/youtube]

yep…if you can’t work out what made his swing tick from watching the slo mo swing he gives at the clinic…you aren’t trying or will never get it

Nice to see you back Bom and at your computer…always some great images to consider.

Been playing around with my computer too lately. Here’s one for you guys to consider. From page 19 of Five Lessons is this picture. Something big is missing when considering the two pictures combined, yet is in plain view when you think about it. Any guesses?
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The right foot is missing…
the golf ball is missing also. :confused:

The legs aren’t part of the circuit drawn on the left. Ravielli’s reference to the accident?