Thanks for the post…
I was going to try to dig up something like that!
Another obvious comparison.
And some teachers will have you believe that it’s all in the takewaway.
And even with the drastically different hand paths in the backswing, they look very similar in the last frame. Knudson is slightly flatter than Miller, but they’re in virtually the same position. No coincidence there.
Yeah and once they get it to that last frame (430 line) they both cut it left very nicely with a very aggressive rotation. Backswing positions are way overrated, but that seems to be what most people are working on. When they probably should be working on what happens from 430 line through impact to the finish, because that is really what sets the greatballstrikers apart from most.
And what sets ABS apart from other programs… 
Got these off Chris’ site. Some interesting grabs. They are not of the same swing, but are of the same session. The clubhead is barely visible in the lower photo.
There are a lot of concepts working together properly here.
Shaft at right angles to the spine is not something you see in modern swings with upright gear and pivot stalling.
The shaft flat and through the chi line at right angles to the spine is not something you can just do.
You have to earn your way into this stuff, and have your gear set up correctly.
Once mastered, you can say goodbye to OTT and missing greens long and left.
If the shaft is upright coming down, not in harmony with the spine, compensations have to be made and timing becomes
a much more critical factor. It can be done though.
This is just brilliant! Thanks all 
Some great minds on this forum.
Please tell me what you think lie angles should be for a 6 foot tall golfer.
And for club weight does one put lead tape on the club head AND under the grip?
Lie angles:
I’m 5’11" and play 5 degrees flat, and John (lag) is a little taller than me and plays clubs that are 6 degrees flat, and flatter than that in the woods. Over time, you’ll be able to work flatter and flatter. I spent about 6 months at 3 degrees flat.
You can put lead tape under the grip to counter-balance the lead tape on the head and preserve swingweight if you need to add a lot of weight, but I haven’t needed to. With good heavy shafts and anything but super lightweight grips, it isn’t really necessary most of the time.
George Archer is a good study for taller players. He bent his knees a ton which allowed his torso to stay more erect to enable a flatter rotation going through. Most people can swing gear a lot flatter than they ever would imagine if they train themselves properly to do so. I stay focused on dead weight, not swing weight. If I can’t feel the clubhead, then I know my gear is not heavy enough. Work into the heaviest gear you can reasonably handle. It puts more feel into your hands, compresses the ball better, and inhibits over acceleration. Good golf is not always a race to the highest velocity reading on a digital swing analyzer.
To anybody paying attention: The ABS swing is much easier and more effective the more erect you can keep your torso. Innuendo not-withstanding. 
Captain Chaos
A study in power…and for me, dropping the club eight inches off the table…
Faster than a speeding bullet…it’s Superman Hogan…you too Bom, great picture. But shouldn’t you be busy taking in some ale with the lads and lassies. 
Had to take a respite from elsewhere on the WWW. Man…it’s fricken crazy out there…sharks in the water everywhere, like talking to brain dead pickles, or slippery soled vipers, nowhere to breathe… none of it makes any sense. Nice to know that ABS is still the safe room when the titanium bullets start flying.
Unless they are swinging flat heavy gear with super stiff shafts and working the club as much around their body as possible in conjunction with lots of forearm rotation, they are going to have zero idea what you are talking about. You might as well be speaking to a lamp post.
Things move in cycles… slowly, but I am not going to wait around for the collective consciousness of general golf instruction to tell me it’s ok to use or teach a proper golf swing. I suppose we are ahead of our time in relationship to the cycle, even though it may seem old news. There is so much information lost at this point, and the game is in terrible shape… and I think the business end of it will ultimately suffer in the future by distancing the tour from the reality of most golfers. This game was never intended to be a long driving contest… nor as much of a putting contest as it has become.
This reminds me of a question I was meaning to ask in Sedona earlier this week:
Can a golf shaft be too stiff for a hitter? You’d think that with the modern technology and engineering in the game today that if the right people tried, a VERY stiff shaft, far stiffer than an X100, could be produced at any desired weight. Theoretically, would this be worth pursuing?
We don´t know if he was hitting a low shot or something else, but I never realised how
early Mr. Hogan closed his clubface to the arc (swingplane or sweetspotplane)…
Some thoughts anyone…
The middle picture must be around 1952 and the last is from the 1966 Olympic Club…
I have to versions from the 1966 swing, one with good resolution pics and one with bad quality but a lot of pics…
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEzD1abHuI4[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApEGAL-2K0U[/youtube]
Personally I close way later the face to the arc - back to school…