pressure should be increasing between the 3rd and 4th frames. That big lag angle needs to be dealt with in frame 2.
Think this…Snead was all over this concept also:
A 15 year old Jack, and a young Ben… with thanks to TMs for the amazing Jack footage
Apparently young Jack didn’t like the feeling of getting his arms stuck as a lot of modern swings deal with.
Seriously. And you know what happens when something gets ‘stuck’ in a corner- it tends to be ready for a fight! The modern world is not nearly as ‘modern’ as it thinks it is…
Going into my Christmas stash of red pills from last year for this one, but it may be right up Hogan’s alley. I think the sombitch maybe saw something here, as these structures haven’t been around forever. And I’ve always sort of thought primarily that he didn’t quite have a secret of sorts directed specifically at a movement, rather he saw or experienced something that gave him pause to consider. We’re all shaped by what we witness to an extent.
Been preoccupied with geodesic domes, and residual spirals, for a spell. It occurred to me that everything we do, everything we see, everything we feel, everything we witness, everything we think, everything we build, etc. is all done under a geodesic dome- everything. The circular horizon and sky above forms a dome above us. Well, if everything is under a dome, why not a golf swing too. Would a geodesic dome, which has symmetrical height, width and depth outline correct paths and allow movements that comply with the sacred geometry within the dome structure, but also comply with the pressures and compression not seen within the structure, but is most surely there.
No more plane sticks…no more PVC swing plane circles…no more anything. What if we imagined we are within a small geodesic dome while moving the club. If we did, wouldn’t the spiral naturally occur. And while spiraling back down with gravity during the free ride toward the path past low point, wouldn’t that not then be the path needing more acceleration upward.
I’ve been using this image and it is really remarkable. Of course, only for those that aren’t freaked out about images and intentions. For those that like this sort of thing, try your move within that mental image construct and see if you feel anything different- it’s really pretty cool and powerful compression too.
Gotta find me an eskimo to build me an igloo…could be cold inside, but maybe it’s really warm but the warmth is hidden from view for those on the outside.
Just sayin’ is all…Range Rat or Festus…not sure anymore!
Here’s some information- for those interested.
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RR, or DR,
You have successfully fried my last sputtering synapse.
RR or DR,
Just kidding sort of. Truth is these concepts appear to be beyond my reckoning. 
The intentions of the golf swing cannot be in a straight line. CF will do a lot to flatten things out into a plane slicing or dissecting the ball through impact, but to do this, the pre and post impact clubshaft entry and exit points should not be seeking a two dimensional disposition. You can really see this with Hogan when you observe the flat entry and steep exit created by opposing forces within the body itself.
The ball is round, the hole is round, the arc of the ball is and arc… the earth is round and the sky is round.The swing is hyperbolic and ovular in shape.
In Frame 8 his left knee is stable, not fully extended and rotating fully away from the target, mirroring the left hip pulling away as well. There is no attempt, it seems, to brace up on the inside of his left leg. Instead let the weight flow to a full finish. You can see it moving into his left heel, not his toes. I never really understood pinching the knees in at address unless one has the propensity to sway a lot. Always thought that was a governor on the swing, esp. with the driver. Letting the weight move fully to the middle/beginning outside of the right foot on the backswing, then engage the Snead squat and that momentum gathers and later, increases post-impact acceleration…
Hey guys! Please can as many of you as possible comment on Hogans hand path vs club path. His hand path is over the top but manipulates the club to come from the inside. Hence he has the powerful body position an over the top move gives but the club is on the optimum in to out path. Chris on youtube made a great video on youtube that’s where I discovered this and I think this was Hogan’s biggest asset. I am trying to emulate this but finding it quite hard.
Thanks!
Who is “Chris?” What is his youtube channel?
Here is his channel
youtube.com/user/tarifachris
I’m halfway through reading Ben Hogan: An American Life, and in it talks about how he acquired his nickname, the Hawk. Apparently he could pick out minute changes or improvements in anyone’s swing and try to apply it to his own. One of them was his “low-angle” swing which he adopted from a player he used to caddy for. Decades later, he wrote a letter to a friend about how a “high finish” encouraged his hips and shoulders to turn through the shot.
It’s a very interesting book so far and about to close in on the “accident.” 
Saw this footage of Hogan on R3J’s blog and wanted to bring it over. I think it’s from Chris’s channel. He posted his great swing over here recently. Hadn’t seen this before and wonder if anyone (Chris?) has any more information on the clip…
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9g7CZGx5WI[/youtube]
does anyone else struggle with getting this kind of ‘green out’ with youtube videos? anybody know how to fix this?
Module 8 imagery.
Sooooo beautiful!
Hey guys! Please can as many of you as possible comment on Hogans hand path vs club path. His hand path is over the top but manipulates the club to come from the inside. Hence he has the powerful body position an over the top move gives but the club is on the optimum in to out path. Chris on youtube made a great video on youtube that’s where I discovered this and I think this was Hogan’s biggest asset. I am trying to emulate this but finding it quite hard.
Thanks!
Yes, great video. Love the audio too…James Brown, “The Godfather of Soul,” Augusta GA.
We don’t spend a lot of time discussing backswing path because as Hogan himself said "We don’t hit the ball on the backswing’
It’s not uncommon to view the hand path of great strikers coming down differently than their backswing path, but you don’t see many swings where their hands are coming down too steep and in a disconnected way.
The three main functions of the backswing are to cock the wrists, rotate the forearms, and rotate the shoulders to allow the proper range of motion for these power levers to function properly. The path of the hands and clubhead are not as critical as most would tend to think, and we can see this in the variety of backswings that have won major championships and so on.
Raymond Floyd and Hubert Green would be opposing examples.
Weight transfer is really by product of doing these things correctly within fairly loose parameters while understanding the need for spine tilt and so on.
I don’t think of Hogan ever coming down steep, very much working the shaft out of his right hip pocket just prior to impact or what we would call P3 around here (A reference of where the shaft would be roughly parallel to the ground just prior to impact)
What you might be seeing with Hogan are the use of properly rotated forearms which help keep the clubhead from coming OTT.