An interetsing observation: If you skip forward in the video to where Bens shoulders are paralell to the target line youll find it very close to where Moe started his swing 
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Been reading ABS for over a year now and I thought we were all HITTERS over here? By definition isn’t a ABS HIT some sort of push or SLAP near impact? Not TGM hitting of driving down/out but very pivot based and then right hand. You know, the three right hands.
Or are you just being very specific in saying “Not AT the ball” as that would be TGM hitting. ABS is more rotational pivot and right arm slap horizontally?
Budman, TGM hitting is driving (straightening) the right arm. ABS hitting is forearm rotation (with strong pivot) while preserving right arm.
Hogan said three right hands, not three right arms.
Big difference here.
The right arm can do three basic things through impact
Pulled straight
Actively driven straight
Resist straightening
In TGM, resisting is not covered as a component variation even though this technique was used
by many of the greats. This is the problem with observation based instruction or analysis.
There are a lot of things going on in a golf swing that are not visible or easily visible, such as various
pressures and forces, muscular contractions and so on… become speculation to the armchair expert.
lagpressure,
Very late to this discussion on Hogan, and all that ABS teaches.
You mentioned forearm rotation and pivot. What direction do you advocate the forearm rotation?
There are very specific protocols for forearm rotation. The better ball strikers employ more rotation than the lesser ones in general. Certainly clockwise on the backswing, counter clockwise through the impact arena, but I don’t recommend over rotating them post impact. There is a chain of events that must happen… I often refer to a three stage rocket firing (sequential). There is an order and of course some overlapping, but when done properly, there is some very powerful and effective technique accessible to those willing to work at it a bit.
In simpler terms, it’s best to feel any closing of the clubface happening with pivot rotation, very delayed and aggressive… I believe to be far superior to other methods I have seen executed or suggested.
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Lagpressure,
Is there anyway the right forearm rotates counter clockwise on the BS and counterclockwise on the DS, and the left forearm does just the opposite? Or am I seeing an optical illusion in Hogan’s swing?
Thanks for the previous reply.
Mark, 1lovegolf24
Can I ask what the purpose of active forearm rotation is in a golf swing?I cant see how it adds any extra power/accuracy by making the toe move more than the heel.It seems to add in more moving parts for no added gain
Since drilling like mad I’ve noticed I have been rotating the forearms into imact very hard lately. Which causes the toe to rapidly close on the way down, to stop the rotation occuring through impact is impossible. hence my struggle with heavy draws and hooks.
I also have noticed if I implement alot of forearm rotation the club gets behind me and out of sequence with the body pivot.
Since I’ve not conciously added in any rotation my golf has totally transformed. No more snap hooks and weak pushes.
Anyhow, I assume I’m not understanding a key aspect because most good hitters seem to rotate a fair bit into impact…
tsdean,
I don’t know where you are in the program or if you are in the program, but once you get to Mod 3 you will realize that it is indeed possible to stop forearm rotation post impact. It goes to an aggressive pivot and structure in the right arm. Join the program and all will be revealed.
Im currently on mod 4 andhave been doing ABS for about a year. I have made huge inroads into my swing. But Im wondering is there a point at which to much rotation into impact is a bad thing?. Im now extremly strong at firing into the impact bag that the toe of the club is moving so fast I cant see how its possible to out pivot it with torso rotation. maybe im mistakingly trying to apply to much power via rotation? is the rotation a power move or an accuracy one?
I never once prescribed rolling the clubface over… not sure how you interpreted that from the module instruction.
Having good forearm strength is of great importance for striking a golf ball properly using a hitting method. Look at most any great ballstriker and it is of no coincidence that they all have pretty big forearms. As we move along, and you learn to slot the club deeper, forearm rotation and strength become more and more important as they are the first to start working against the orbit pull of CF.
If the clubhead is flipping post impact, you can either pick up post impact rotational speed of the torso and shoulders, or you can back off the downswing velocity until you pick it back up on the back end.
I am fully aware there should be zero club face roll through impact. Im just curious as to why its neccessary at all ? especially on the way down?
what happens if you dont rotate?
TS Dean
The ABS slot is so deep and so shallow that the club will just floor and hit behind the ball, if you dont support it by forearm rotation. Generally you should leave this to happen by itself. The human unconcious brain is way accurate in physical attributes than the concious one. From a deep laid position you need both forearm and shoulder rotation to square the club and they will ultimatley find the balance. The concious effort should be to bring it in as deep and as open. You might start hitting lots of fat shots but ultimately the body will find the strength and coordination to do it.
In my opinion the forearm rotaiton provides the variable fill in to square the club. When the torso/shoulders are rotating more level (meaning efficiently) you need less forearms and vice versa.
But because the hands are the most richly supplied with nerves and best controlled muscle group in the body you leave the finesse to them. Take care of the big muscle group and forget about the samll ones (it helps though to train them for the job).
Certainly some things to ponder here.
As Knudson said, the head is not the center of the golf swing… and we don’t want it stationary as TGM subscribes.
The pivot rotation from P3 to P4 is ferocious.
The slotting of the club through transition is epic stuff here.
The orbit pull is alive and well… you can almost feel it yourself looking at the rotation of images.
Very powerful stuff here.
Hips and shoulders move in every frame. No pivot stalling going on here.
You can clearly see the torso picking up acceleration in the last two frames.
A true hit through the ball just as he described in 5 Lessons. Reaching maximum velocity past impact.
It’s the vicious post impact pivot thrust that makes it all work… allows for the deep slotting and flat entry.
The rotation is very level going through.
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Outstanding Hogan images. I wonder how golf instruction would have changed if we only had images and video of Hogan post-impact. How would we infer he got himself to move that way? Pre-impact Hogan has dazzled and mesmerized us to distraction.
I have to laugh every time the word “secret” is used, and I am tempted to use it here! 
But it’s because of his post impact work that allows all the things pre impact to work. Most golfers who slot it that deep simply don’t have the guns at the bottom to handle the angles and range of motion created by how Hogan slotted the club.
I can go to just about any popular driving range and find some Hoganite who grips it like Hogan, mimics the backswing, lays it back in transition, has a ton of lag angles coming down, and finishes with Ben’s postcard posture at finish. Might even wear a flat cap and nicely ironed trousers to complete the look. But if you slow it down they NEVER EVER EVER have the hard cut it left connected aggressive pivot action through impact. Instead they dump and roll to some degree and the golf ball doesn’t respond the way Hogan’s did. There is no mystery here.
At transition, Hogan slotted the club because he could. If you slot or super slot the club the way Hogan did, you are guaranteed 4:30 line access… and you are forbidden access to OTT. Flat lie angles and heavy gear are further insurance against possible OTT outcomes.
But as I have said many times before… you have to earn your way into this stuff… as Hogan said, “The Free Ride Down”, is the only free thing going on here. Hogan didn’t say, Free ride Through or Free Ride to Finish as some would like to believe.
He said “I wish I had Three Right Hands” not three right arms.
As an ABS student and deep into the first four critical modules, I’m starting to think of the three-right-hands concept a bit differently. To be slotted, deep with arms tightly packed, to be in that position in the swing, at that point, there is a density, a heaviness, a pressure that must be handled. I want three right hands and three left hands to lift that club up to PV5. You need that many to handle those angles you’ve put yourself in, which are now low and left. I don’t want to use the hands to slap (oops, sorry) it forward.
I’ll say this. If you can do this, take a seven or eight iron, play the ball back an inch and you will absolutely kill it.
My experience exactly! Well said.
Captain Chaos
Lag,
Is the PP3 pressure really starting up between the second and third frames here? The ‘here’ referenced being the blue-skied sequence…