The Nautilus, the Golf Swing, Golden Ratio, Fibonacci seque

We wouldn’t be here without you, 1T… so, thanks to you.
Cheers…
BOM

This may be common knowledge to everyone in the world except me, but in digging into some of the DNA stuff, I found out that one of the key discoveries in the understanding of the double helix structure of a DNA molecule, was that the strands on the outside run in opposite directions. It’s a big, small world.

I didn’t know that…wow!

Makes me think that everything universal reduces to symmetry, inverted opposition, or a combination of both…thanks for posting that. :slight_smile: RR

At least there’s two of us, RR!
As my man James Joyce said, “In the particular lies the universal”. Words to live and golf by.

This book is a short good read by one of the discoverers( Watson and Crick) of DNA, telling their journey.
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Bom,

You probably already found out how the Nautilus shell develops, but here goes (roughly scrounged from Wikipedia). The growth process of the Nautilus uniformly extends and expands the shell rim of its surrounding chamber thus increasing the volume of space where the body is growing. Space increases faster than the Nautilus flesh can grow to occupy it and the Nautilus periodically creates a sealed wall behind its body leaving a new and essentially empty chamber larger than the previous sealed chamber. The growth of the Nautilus spiral is said to be a logarithmic spiral that is not a golden spiral, and therefore not in the proportion of the golden ratio and the Fibonacci sequence. It is among the best examples of a naturally occuring logarithmic spiral. The visual difference between a Nautilus shell spiral and a golden spiral is difficult for me to detect visually. I am not a math guy, but to math folks I suppose the difference is like night and day while entirely and regrettably opaque to me and, I presume, to the Nautilus, whose DNA has somehow got it right without me and the math folks and doing it mostly the same really cool way for about 500 million years.

Best to you,
1teebox

Very interesting 1T… I hadn’t gotten around to looking into it yet, so thanks… It must have a very symmetrical or sequenced growth pattern or it must be on a very specific clock or timer as to when it builds the walls… I gotta dig into this thing.
Cheers,
BOM

Thanks, Eagle… I’ll see if I can dig it out. I saw a good movie about them years ago that I think had Jeff Goldbloom in it… I remember really liking it… I’m having a great time digging into this stuff- so many connections it’s amazing…
Cheers…

Here are a couple of images I have had for a while now.

These came out of a golf catalog of some sort.

First we have the back swing
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and then the through swing
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JJ Moore
AKA: Taylor Spalding

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I want to thank Tee Box for getting this thread started and making me aware of it. Just the fact that so many have shown interest in this thread gives me great solace. For many years I endured the chiding of those who thought me to be a bit nuts. Like any new line of thinking, it is almost always rejected at the outset. I always thought I was on to something. All these years later, I feel vindicated. I am glad to know that there are other people out there who realize there may be a golden connection in the game of golf. Thank You.

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Thanks Goldengolf for posting the link to your site. Fantastic stuff.

Ive done a lot of Aikido training with the Jo and some of your demonstrations set off a few light bulbs for that side of my training :slight_smile:

Also spatial awareness of the center of the golf club is a very advanced topic… I’m a long way from feeling it in swing the golf club compared with the Jo.

Thank for the link :smiley:

Dave

Port? Cigar? A little early, perhaps…

You can take a circle and depending on which way you bend it or alter it, you can make it more ‘powerful’ or more ‘concentrated’ at certain points. This would be sort of conceptual, but also physically real in terms of the journey of the clubhead- I say clubhead, because that’s the thing that ultimately matters regardless of the technique used to accelerate it. A simple example would be if you look at a Nascar track, it’s a circle that’s been squashed and warped a bit, and the forces on the car as it makes it’s journey around, change considerably. To counter the pressure at the more concentrated ends, the track is lifted up, and if it wasn’t, then it might get kind of quiet on lap 2.
There’s a very interesting and powerful moment in the golfswing, that when done correctly, produces massive force in a similar way to end of the track, and it’s then released into the ball. In my opinion, it’s why holding the rotation late is so important. Prior to impact in a really good golfswing, the sides of the body have stayed in tact. By that I mean, every part of the left side of the body(arm and hand included) is on the outside, and every part of the right side of the body(arm and hand included) is on the inside. Post impact, if it’s done properly, the structure is fully reversed and quickly. In the middle of that reversal is impact, and the later you leave the switch, and the harder you then do actively switch, the more concentrated the energy is both stored and delivered.
It’s sort of confusing to think about the specific moment when the sides to do actually switch over, and I’ve thought about it a lot. It’s definitely sequential because it comes from in to out or down to up, or however it is you want to see that, so it’s ‘late’ in terms of the final piece of the puzzle, and it’s definitely delivered. The switch has to be actively done because if it’s not then everything flies out right as you would imagine…
I’m going now, but it’s linked to your diagram the other day which I thought was just great btw. I actually have a few similar to that but with slightly different takes on it…
What are the Rat thoughts on all this stuff?
BOM

That’s good stuf RR. I really like that circle/sine wave drawing.

Can you reveal your sources for the illustration?? Iam looking for something similar which I have on the back-burner in regards to the free ride…made a post a while back, but words cannot come close to the visual…as you have shown.

Eagle: The drawing I did on my Paint program. The source, or inspiration, for my painting? Have you forgotten already?..it was the red pills one day at the range…or was it the green pills…then again it may have been brown pills. :laughing: The video of the sine wave/circle interplay I stole over from YT…thanks to IOZ for showing me how to do that.

Just got word from Arnie that I will have to, for sake of continuity, paste that stuff over here on this thread. So I gotta go for a coke and a smoke and think about how I will do that. My palms are starting to sweat…this might be scarier than a 3 foot putt. I might need a pill.

Stay tuned…in the meantime…can you spot in the paint diagram where the bent right wrist is? :slight_smile: RR

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