Thanks, Macs, I appreciate your passion and your questioning mind…
This quote says it all really, classic stuff! It really is a small world 
Some photos of Mike Souchak- so much good stuff…
Whoa. Looks like he’s going to fall on his butt in that last one.
Speaks to how fast the club is/was moving in a lot of ways. It’s a downhill shot so he’s fighting the pull of the slope as well as the pull of the club, but that position is one a lot of great players get into. It makes no sense if you’re not taking into account the force of the club ‘holding him up’. Or is it the other way around?..
Look at that left upper arm connection to the torso in that first picture. The ground forces look really dynamic too. But the best thing is that pressure on the shaft.
Souchak was an extremly long hitter in his day. Looking at that photo it is evident why.
He was a good player too. Won a number of tournaments. I believe he set a 72 hole scoring record in the mid 50’s at the Texas Open in San Antonio that stood for about 50 yrs. if I’am not mistaken.
Great stuff B22!
It’s been bugging me and I’ve been trying to figure out where I’d seen that Souchak impact position before- I just figured it out… it’s the same as this Australian guy who stripes it… it’s an iron vs. a wood but it’s all there…
They do look alike.
Great footwork and lots of strong pivot action through impact. And look how much the right arm is preserved at impact! So much for TGM and it’s edict of straightning the right arm through impact.
Where do you find all this stuff BG222?
Dinkbat,
I think TGM advocates NOT to run out of right arm. Unfortunately thrusting with the right triceps too soon etc. does nothing to preserver the right arm unless you are pivoting like a dervish…like Mac Ogrady!
Bobscottjnr,
You are right about that. But for me, anytime I’ve tried to fire my right tricep in the downswing I’ve always run out of right arm no matter how hard I pivoted, so I avoid that move/thought like the plague.
Maybe I just need a better pivot!
ABS is defintely helping me with that.
TGM does advocate not running out of right arm. But if you use the TGM hitter procedure and thrust the right arm, it then becomes difficult to do. You can do it, but it’s not easy. I used to be able to do it, but my downswing plane was much more upright.
3JACK
That’s one of the things I don’t like about stock TGM. Whenever I setup to “not” run out of right arm. I almost take a deep divot with my ELBOW.
However, if I also do the other stock TGM thing, which is level left wrist and right forearm on plane - I run out of left arm. If I do a proper turn the ball is to far away!
The premise of the whole setup routine is to quieten the shoulders early in the down stroke and swing the arms through. If I do it perfectly I get the same quality shot as if I do it MY WAY. But I still miss the feeling of hitting from my left foot. I was watching Bobby Clampet today and he still has traces of this and all was not good. But I think that’s a theme after he has finished his tournament. I’m rooting for him tomorrow.
The TGM teachers that preach driving the right arm into impact are encouraging the pivot to stall.
The key to limiting right arm involvement IS learning to accelerate the pivot post impact. If the pivot stalls, the right arm is going to straighten, either actively or passively…
Homer was right when he observed that the straightening right arm disturbs clubface alignments, so apparently there have been some issues “lost in translation”.
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I just go looking for stuff I suppose. Whatever thought I’m working on I’ll try to find different examples of it wherever I can think it might be…
Do the arm straightening with a pistonic angle of approach aiming point procedyre and I believe you have the stock TGM hitting pattern.
I am not convinced that HK had the pivot figured out. He started as a flipper and eventually discovered that you need a flat left wrist at impact to strike the ball well. All of this is important and probably very good info for newcomers to the game. You can prevent the hands’ flipping by extencior action or driveloading if you somehow decouple the pivot from the action early on. But without a proper pivot motion you’ll get a flip-like motion from the left shoulder instead. To me it feels like setting the pivot in free gear prior to impact. Shutting down 75% of the leverage from the pivot. I have the impression that this is what HK regarded as the compensation free stroke.
Did you see HK strike the ball in person Lagpressure? Anyone knows how good his pivot was - whether he was able to turn his pivot hard through the ball if he wanted?
From what I’ve been told, Homer rarely played once the book was officially published in 1969. Remember, the book was actually written in 1941 when HK was 34 years old. He was 63 when it was published.
There’s a story that back when HK started teaching TGM to the first few teachers who wanted to be authorized instructors, he played with a few of them. He was in his 70’s by then and they never revealed the score, but the story goes that he impressed.
I don’t think HK figure out fully a lot of things. But I also don’t think that was his main purpose behind TGM. I think it started off trying to figure out how to hit the ball effectively and then HK figured out there was no one way to hit a golf ball and then he created a system for the golfer to follow (or the instructor to teach) so they could develop their own stroke and then he realized the importance of feel and how it allowed the golfer to repeat their swing and came up wth a system to develop your own swing and learn feel from mechanics so you can repeat that swing.
3JACK
Lag/Twomasters…
Do you guys have anything of Mark James? I’ve had no luck coming up with anything myself… he was such a striper yet had a ‘terrible’ swing, as they say- I’d love to get a closer look at what he was doing.
Cheers…
Thanks, Lag…
Looks like it could be the old Dunhill Cup judging by the sweater- I loved watching that on TV… pity they got rid of it. England must’ve had the lead if he’s hitting iron off the last.
Cheers…
First attempt with screen grabbing swing sequences…
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