I noticed that Mike Mangiaracina played in a pre-qualifier (02/02/2026) for the Chubb Classic Champions Tour event in Florida. Unfortunately he had a tough day - 83 (43-40) on the 6,707 yard course.
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Glad to see he’s giving her a go. He mentioned he might hit some qualifiers. Wish they would do full coverage on those type of fields. I’d rather watch that than any mainstream coverage
I realize that he can’t practice much on a regular basis if he is teaching a lot but I still thought that he would probably be in the mid-seventies because of his body oriented swing and his strong mental approach. I suspect his putting let him down. Perhaps John can have a brief conversation with Mike to get his impressions of the experience.
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Perhaps he hasn’t mention this experience because he is thinking of the Lee Trevino quote -
“I would never take a lesson from a person who cannot beat me!”
Or maybe the length of 6700 yards was just too much and he is doing some soul searching and moving in silence preparing for the next event.
I am sure he is doing some soul searching. Sixty-seven hundred yards should not be too long for someone John’s age, physically fit and using modern equipment.
Mike is teaching a method used by a golfer most people (even keen golfers) have never heard about. His own game should be at a relatively high level in order to sell the method to other golfers.
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Ok wow I was not aware that he was promoting a very specific swing model
I will check out his videos to see what he is trying to teach and promote
Cheers
The Wild Bill Mehlhorn method!
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What is interesting to me as a golf performance coach is the efficacy of methods. From my experience let’s just say I have 10 clients on the training grounds today. Out of those 10 clients maybe 2-3 will respond to method based instruction so then I have to ask myself how do I help the other 5-7 clients that will not respond well to a particular method.
That’s when understanding tendencies and matching them up with their archetype comes into play and the success KPIs can be met. Trying to get a Rotary Power Stacker like Rory , Faldo or Curtis Strange just to name a few to swing like a Shallow Drop Artist like Corey Pavin, Sandy Lyle or Phil Mickelson would have totally derailed their careers.
So again I personally always like to look at the efficacy of methods and see if they are truly usable and transferable and most of all sustainable on the actual golf course.
I have personally dived into some methods that performed extremely well on the practice tee in controlled environments but fell apart in actual play.
I apologize for the long reply just something that is always on my mind when I hear about methods.
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Is there any good data on the efficacy of golf instruction methods? Probably not. I only see anecdotes and testimonials. Instructors are not incentived, obviously, to measure or be transparent on student outcomes.
There is a lot of data the last 25 years on the efficacy of the golf swing especially with 3D and GEARS technology. There are things that we know without a shadow of a doubt has to happen in a good golf swing. Golf Biomechanics and Kinetics have showcased efficacious movement patterns.
Any good links?
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If reported history is accurate Melhorn hitched his ride from Jug McSpaden’s approach. Not sure, but Jug has a good move too. Fun watching past players. Would rather do that than getting bogged down in a science quicksand pit. No thank you.
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Jug McSpaden in my opinion figured out Gravity Golf before it was coined Gravity Golf very similar drills.
I’m confident any data list would not be rank ordered, but for grins what might be the top 5 on nearly anyone’s list? 
The video with Lag and Mangiaracina on Lag’s channel is a must listen. Only through the first hour but the only thing missing is those two boys having a few long-neck bottles of beer in hand while discussing classic golf.
Rat’s antenna went up @ 12:34 with an on-target comment: a swing, a pitch, and a putt feels like cutting it and putting top spin on it at the same time, trapping it with the handle leading and toe releasing.
Rats would call that the magic of a leading right shoulder external pin. Great video Lag, good stories Monte!
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Having a blast listening to Monte’s ideas and life experiences, and thanks to Lag putting his work on ABS channel. Montes and me think a lot alike in a lot of ways, it’s like listening to myself sometimes too. What a background!
Here’s my recent viewing. About 0:48 in he talks about the club’s passage through the zone saying, “by virtue of its following me through there.”
That’s been in my personal binary book for a long time. No matter how we process a sequence through the strike interval we are either leading ‘it’, or ‘it’ is leading us- it leading us is where the stall to hit comes into play as he talks about. Fun times at Ridgemont High. 
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Of the two internet Montes associated with internet instruction one is orders of magnitude better for those looking for insightful answers to a simple swing process where lab coats are not needed.
In that regard hope Mike Monte visits ABS’s public message board when time allows for some good chat and company. I’m most interested at this point in his and Mehlhorn’s idea of letting the hands ‘breathe’ a little.
In the meantime, having the most fun I’ve had in a long while reviewing his social media accounts. Lost my coffee on this one. 
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Scrubbed Montesgolf’s material and one can see why Lag had such a great time with Mike Monte on Lag’s channel. Great swing material all the way around from both of those two inside the ropers.
I said earlier when listening to Montesgolf it’s like listening to myself in many ways. One of his videos on being inside the ball, although not titled that way by Montesgolf is more about being low and long through the zone, had been an idea rummaging around in the rat brain long ago and when I happened upon the baseball drill back then I knew that was the idea I was looking for that matched what I sensed.
Here’s a sample. Montesgolf with a low and long message, and a baseball drill being inside yourself and inside the ball, but I see them as basically the same- but maybe a matter of personal perspective when both balls are coming in from behind.
About the only issue I have so far is Montesgolf’s YouTube channel is difficult to search through as often times the thumbnail message doesn’t reflect the video title, which doesn’t necessarily reflect the best part of the message, so a little cumbersome for me, but worth the effort.
More to come.
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You guys watching any of his videos? If so, what 'cha think? I haven’t seen material this solid since stumbling into Lag’s and Two’s tent quite some time ago. He describes himself as a swinger, BUT he certainly uses good arms and wrist in the stroke as he is not a stall and dump artist- he’s motoring thru Dodge.
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