Traditional Golf Instruction Misses the mark

Today we had a coaches clinic with coaches from multiple golf courses as a give back to the community. While we were waiting for the participants to show up we did a coaches on coaches

lesson.
The coach that was chosen to evaluate my swing said I come inside too fast even though my strike was spot on and the ball flight was called before the shot a tight cut shot that landed on the driving range green.

I hit 3 more shots with the same ball flight then finished with a tight draw to mix it up. All 5 balls the coach was more concerned about esthetics than skill set. Every shot I was on the 4:30 line then in a very good delivery position on the functional swing plane.

It made me think about how many players are derailed because the coach wants them to look a certain way versus improving swing dynamics.
What Say You ?

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Sounds right to me. You do you Blades while I agree a bit about the club inside going back it is not essential for elite level ball striking. Bruce Lietzke among many others had an inside move and played long and storied careers in competitive golf.

It sounds backward to me for the most part- an appearance is the effect, not the cause, is it not.

I think good coaches are quick with finding proper ways using cause and effect and letting the outcome look like it looks. For instance, if one is trying to pin their trail arm a little more to the pivot through the strike (an effect) one might suggest using a sequence which adds a little more forward flexion (the cause) on the return swing than what was established at address.

That’s what say me. :rofl:

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Just think. If someone like Leadbetter had been around to help Jack Nicklaus get rid of his flying elbow by wearing a swing shirt he could have been a three time club champion.

Ive often thought of this. What would have happened if they had tried to change Ray Floyd’s swing, or Couples. There are so many great players we never would have heard of.

Way more pros lost their tour cards by making those changes.

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Welcome Brian to the land of Liberty and wide-open fairways.

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Thanks.

I’ve been lurking for a bit. Is there a page where I can introduce my self?

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There’s not an official introduction thread as far as I know. Most of the long termers have simply dropped a nugget here, a nugget there, about their background within a thread when it’s topic related.

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Spot on imin agreement 100% and when I work with clients I tell them I’m not trying to fix anything, what I’m looking for are opportunities to improve and getting motion to be more efficient and transferable to the golf course

Spot on we are in a golf industry that feels compelled to fix something regardless of how the ball is flying to the target.

I also know my swing extremely well and when I feel I’m low and wide I can hook the ball off the planet so my default is always to come inside as soon as possible because I have always been able to slot the club from there.

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Have to swing your swing. And the best way to develop a good motion is going old school. Learn to hit the ball under a tree is one example of creating a fluid motion. Second (and my favorite) is hitting different height lob wedges off of hard pan. The game really changes once you can control the face of the club. The look will happen because you are mastering the most important part of the swing. IMPACT

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Spot on and I did take his concerns into account and dropped a headcover yesterday while hitting balls to emphasize turning a tad more while keeping the hands in front of me it’s just another one of those little nails that will keep the structure more solid in the heat of competition. I can have this locked in by August easily with awareness drills.

A good coach has to not only be able to teach but also be able to listen objectively and I have decided to do that especially watching some Hogan clips. Hogan comes inside but not until a certain moment in the golf swing so I’m going to work on getting within that window.
Cheers

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Many worry about throwing the club out or casting from the top. But the bottom of the swing arc throwing out casting is even more important.

That head cover drill is good. Or even laying a club on ground simulating the 430 line is even more beneficial. Feeling like the shaft stays on that shaft into the ball

But do it with trying to keep a level feel.

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