Thoughts on Ben Hogan

My crew just arrived… :laughing:
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who is up for a little sail, hopefully without flapping in the wind, anyone?

Something to consider if you want to get some sense of leg action. Having been in the haberdashery business as a youngster I can assure you pants do not drape like we see in Hogan at address unless the tailor is toking the finest Columbian. There is really only one way to have the L slack leg fall like that at address, in which the front crease attaches to the shin area as if by static cling.

On the back-move you can see the same area, which now becomes almost sail like, expand to take a more pronounced profile, almost like a sail filling with air, into a triangular design, and then in the hitting action you can see the lagging effect of the sail curvature.

Just some fun stuff, but I have heard it said that naked people have little or no influence and clothes making somebody.

Lest I forget:

My crew passed their audition to serve on the USS Rat by having the correct answer to the following dilemma.

If the horizon settles to our eye level, and their feet while in the sand are also on ‘a horizon’ but only when relative to someone else’s eye level perspective, how is it when they look UPWARD from the horizon they are standing upon and out to another horizon- the sea-sky line- above their feet which is concomitantly at their feet as well, and given an earth curvature that is going minimally DOWNWARD from their vantage point a straight line does not appear…or does it.

Girls…… what does that look like? ……and they all got it right!

Thanks to Phily for a great gif……going back out on the ship….the girls like rolling waves in the Columbian waters. :laughing:

Fair seas and following winds.

It’s easy to grin
When your ship comes in
And you’ve got the stock market beat.
But the man worthwhile,
Is the man who can smile,
When his shorts are too tight in the seat.

  • Judge Smails

youtube.com/watch?v=dBODcN7cvqw

Now, what all this has to do with Hogan I don’t know. But I always enjoy a nice day on the water with a well found boat.

Ever since RR commented about how Mr. Hogan’s club travels as he starts the down swing, it looks to move level horizontally for some moment of time, I noticed how Mr. Hogan uses his legs in the video RR posted to accompany his observation. I’ve always been in awe of Mr. Hogan’s footwork; however, I have been studying just how his feet and legs move, since one of RR’s more recent posts. What I thought I saw I did not see. What I see now is Poetry in motion. It was as if I was like looking at the horizon yet not seeing the horizon at all.

I’ve always had poor footwork. In fact that is one of the main things Larry Mowry pointed out to me when I had a couple of lessons with him. So along with working to have a shallower swing plane, come in to impact in a more proper position, among a several other things I am working on, footwork is one of my main areas to improve upon.

One of the things I am discovering while doing some of the things Twomasters showed me is that foot work and ground pressures play a most important role in the golf swing. Of course we all know that. I just didn’t know how. As I work on impact it seems foot work and ground pressures go hand in hand with everything I am working on even though that is not the focus of the training Twomasters taught me to do. And now I am learning.

Now, to have anywhere near as good of footwork as Mr. Hogan, that is one more part of the secret that can be found if one is willing to look and train.

Mr. Hogan, as we all know, was full of secrets. Or, are they really secrets? To me one of the main points of all of Mr. Hogan’s secrets is this one thing: Hard Work and Determination Do Pay Off in the end.

Two things strike me about Hogan’s footwork in RR’s gif: (1) his left foot is very quiet (the left heel barely leaves the ground, and only for just an instant), and (2) his right foot releases to the point where the toe of his shoe is drug laterally a bit toward the left during the followthru (perhaps a result of his pivot-based swing).

All will be revealed in your next module :wink:

Looks like he’s performing the finish of drill 2 at address. Anyone else see that?

The lower half of his body in particular.

Somebody who said he was tournament-side and saw Hogan swing said, on driver swings, once Hogan’s left hand and arm got inline at impact, he could noticeably see him trying to speed up past impact as fast as he could. He said Hogan freewheeled the driver.

I think one of the most important passages in 5L (pg. 108) is this:

'Don’t be afraid of swinging too hard…if you are working with muscles that are fully extended, there has to be more uniformity than if your muscles are flexed with varying degrees of tension and so ‘give’ differently on one swing and another. I feel I can hit the ball straighter if I hit if hard and full."

Imagine that, Hogan wrote what he meant. No language here with a mysterious subtext, just simple, clear advice.

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I’ve been watching videos of Mr. Hogan for the past several years and his swing always amazes me. I’ve been having an issue with maintaining my spine tilt along with the transition of my downswing. So today I was reading something today of course Mr. Hogan was shown, and then 1teebox reminded me about this video and I decided to watch it again.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFO-L0Lod0o[/youtube]

At about the .12 -.13 second mark you see Mr. Hogan as he begins his transition into the downswing and his tailbone appears to move very slightly towards the target. It was mentioned in the article I was reading that this was one move that Mr. Hogan did to help set himself up for the downswing and rotation of the body during the swing and it was also a key that helped him set body to help maintain the angle.

It seems that many times if I feel I make this move, whether or not I truly do, I always seem to strike the ball better.

One more of Mr. Hogan’s secrets?

The are auctioning off one of the two sets of Irons that Ben Hogan actually used during the year 1953. Be sweet to own such a relic…I bet these will go for a pretty penny!

Full Article here:
http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-tours-news/blogs/local-knowledge/2014/03/exclusive-ben-hogans-1953-clubs-to-be-put-up-for-sale-expect.html
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A very friendly forum member told me my Coleman Video jiggles so much…

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkkowK-F_xo[/youtube]

Hmm, I have some better quality ones from the Coleman Video:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouAl4XOcmio[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6NkiOrJQlQ[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcHKBqr3m20[/youtube]

Nice recently uploaded footage:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAJMeX4YJbQ[/youtube]

This is with the DTL side view:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU2FVvwAOIc[/youtube]

Im sure that everyone else has noticed that Hogan presets his head position just before take away in the same way Jack did in later years.

During transition he takes that head position out immediately and returns to a more two eyed look. It seems he does this by the lower body movement rather that turning the neck as he does just prior to take away. Trying to do it feels like it helps to move the swing plane as described in 5 lessons or the Moe master move or increasing spine tilt.

Watch his head rotation its interesting. Shows up more in the longer clubs as expected.

Actually I just noticed he even does it in the Coleman video.

Maybe its his way of controlling monitoring spine tilt as he sets up with so little?

The Left Elbow

I have always been confused about the left elbow being described in 5 lessons as pointing towards the left hip. I has always seemed to me that his left elbow was pointed down the target line or that the cup of his left elbow was pointed at his right shoulder as described in the video source of these stills.
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