RR - Watch the club head starting at the 12 second mark.
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Can’t imagine being any more open than what’s in the partial circle, or what I call toe light.
An open face above Snead’s head, an open palm above Paul’s head…time to make another dove tail joint and look through the glass onion.
As part of the transition do you think the move some call the twirl is resposnible?
I’ve been studying some slow motion swings and it almost seems as if the angle of Mr. Hogan’s right wrist increases slightly as he begins transition into the down swing. Do you think that is the case?
An open face above Snead’s head, an open palm above Paul’s head… ← Interesting catch. I was so busy watching the club head I never saw ol’ Sam standing there.
time to make another dove tail joint and look through the glass onion. ← 
I don’t even know what that means - The world through the eyes of the Range Rat. 
This “As part of the transition do you think the move some call the twirl is responsible?” should have read
As part of the transition do you think the move some call the twirl is responsible for how level the club head seems to move at the very beginning of Mr. Hogan’s downswing?
‘Twirl’ would have to be defined pretty narrowly for an opinion here, but I would say no, no direct twirling from the top. What is at play I believe is the changing of effective weight due to oppositional forces. When a shaft goes from vertical to horizontal the dead weight stays the same but the ‘playing’ weight feels heavier because, for one thing, more surface area is exposed to downward gravitational forces- taken from a very laymen’s physics standpoint. So I would agree, and I feel a slight increase in the R wrist bend in transition, but it is more a dynamic weight reaction from going backward and the wrist catching the weight so to speak, and the arm opening, and keeping the club head in lockdown mode.
time to make another dove tail joint and look through the glass onion. ← I don’t even know what that means
Taken from the Beatle’s White Album and the song ‘Glass Onion’.
Showing your age RR.
I was thinking about this earlier.
Its not too much unlike the train as it rounds the bend at the summit of the mountain and then begins its transition back down the mountain. All the energy that was spent pulling the train up the mountain is now released as the the train begins its decent. Everything becomes compressed as gravity takes hold pulling the train down and the oppositional force of the train still needs to make the last turn around the bend for the whole train, the engine and its cars, to begin the journey down. Part of the motion of the train is up and part of the motion of the train is down.
What goes up must come down. Spinning Wheel
Its not too much unlike the train as it rounds the bend at the summit of the mountain and then begins its transition back down the mountain. All the energy that was spent pulling the train up the mountain is now released as the train begins its decent. Everything becomes compressed as gravity takes hold pulling the train down and the oppositional force of the train still needs to make the last turn around the bend for the whole train, the engine and its cars, to begin the journey down. Part of the motion of the train is up and part of the motion of the train is down.
Great stuff JessieV, and better than I could have put it. I especially like, and quite frankly did not consider, the part about the train both ascending and descending at the same time. When that occurs both expansion ( extension ) and contraction ( compression ) variables on each side of the train are in play simultaneously.
What goes up must come down. Spinning Wheel
Great song!
Left side extends and right contracts in transition, left side contracts and right side expands through the strike. Army golf…
Always in the mood for duality in one mixing bowl.
Here’s one I like that I snapped together. When Hogan is ‘up’ at address the club is down on the ground, and when he is ‘down’ the club is up in the air.
Took me a while however to settle into a perspective which is not down to up, or up to down, because not only is it easy to incorrectly do while examining in 2D, and even though elements of both exist in the motion, it pales to the roundness of the primary charge.
Though the ball is stationary, it is moving away from him optically requiring the forward lean to get it. 
Old-School No-Quit Comeback Ben
Check this out Teeboxman…
Looks to me like increasing time moves away from a center, and contracting time moves toward the present…and there is no timing involved.
Time is surreal except for the reality for some of us who know it shrinks with age.
1T,
I saw this a few days ago and thought of you. I’m still certain the premise of this thread holds the answer to the questions!
I hope you’re well, my man…
And likewise to all, it’s been too long, I hope everyone is well these days!
Cheers.
BOM
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Well bust my royal sweet ass and dip me in rhubarb sauce, the best poster on the www has returned to cast nobility upon the peasant farm.
Welcome back to the Irish Vortex. 
Nice to hear from you Double R, looks like the rat maze is keeping you busy!
I’m not so sure about back, just checking in on you guys to see if you’re staying in trouble
I’m busy as ever with the thoughts, just ran out of steam to be typing them out, but I’ve been cooking up some good ones I’d have to say…
Cheers for now my man,
BOM
Yes it has, too busy for my own good sometimes, but nothing wrong with gazing through the looking glass wearing rose covered glasses when you’re up to the gills in snow.
Here’s one that fascinates me a little and made me think of your idea about placing soldering weight placed below the bottom hand instead of pure butt back weighting when tinkering with altering inertia and feel. I wonder if Taylor Made was onto something when they fiddled around with the bubble shaft which would be about the same area on the club as a hilt is on a sword.
I like these words from the following article regarding the interplay between pommel and hilt having a role in something so heavy overall, which craves speed, while delivering power. Additionally how introducing slight geometric alterations to the pommel and hilt affects inertia.
http://www.peterjohnsson.com/notebook/
The balance of the sword is smooth: it has a floating, hovering feel to it with a soft pull forwards of the blade.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaT3GXdr5kM[/youtube]
So much weight, so much air, moving on its own, floating and hovering waiting, weighting, for the kill.
Double R, that video is beautiful, and is interestingly connected to one the pieces of cheese I’ve been chewing- that being the value of swing weight, or high swing weight, as the case may be.
I haven’t read the link as I post, but I will…
I’ve often thought that swinging a golf club is like using a whip the wrong way round. yet trying to achieve essentially the same result- it would require a considerable amount of conscious waiting/timing. Similarly, a sword with a heavy tip would be very difficult to use with speed and direct aggression. And btw, I’m honoured you remembered by soldering wire idea!
It’s not black and white, since the sword’s sweet spot is far higher up the blade than where ours is, but it still poses a good question nonetheless.
I’ll be back in… great post.
Cheers, man…
I haven’t read the link as I post, but I will…
[b]Life is too short for reading, it was just put there for reference to the sword video- which was my favorite part.
Now on to more important things of the day:[/b]
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I bet in my youth I could have nailed those Riverdance steps as I have good feet and can tap out all kinds of rhythms with them. Maybe I have some Irish blood in me.
All drum and bugle corp stuff, even roll offs…fantastic. 