To be, or not to be, that is the question! 
Good stuff Bom.
Hard to believe we’re talking about the golfswing at this point, RR. I just reread my post from this morning and had a chuckle. Though I’m convinced that the simplest things are the hardest to explain because in my mind I’m always trying to describe things that are very simple at their heart. Funny stuff. BTW, I like your comment about the sides getting to the centre of things, very good.
Cheers…
I promise, after the dust settles from the news that follows, it will NOT materially harm self confident nautili. However, if nautili fans have not already been informed, it may be best if they brace themselves for a potentially severe existential crisis.
OK, here we go. My statement is wrong about the “golden spiral of a nautilus shell.” While the nautilus shell spiral is definitely pearly and really nice to see, the spiral itself, it saddens me to say this, is NOT golden, at least not in a mathematical way. If you prefer to see the math, and not merely my testament, please visit John Sharpe’s material in “Spirals and the Golden Section, Part 4: The Myth of the Nautilus Shell” published in “The Nexus Network Journal, Mathematics and Architecture On-Line” currently at the following link:
http://emis.library.cornell.edu/journals/NNJ/Sharp_v4n1-pt04.html.
Best to you.
It appears however he is looking at this in 2D perspective, and not properly in 3D. The spiral shell is a 3D creation… not laying flat on a table to draw golden mean lines across. It depends upon the viewers perspective, and I would imagine that the evolution of a sea shell came about by it’s ability to ward off predators who are viewing it under the reflective nature of underwater visuals.
It is different down there.
Not sure it can properly be valuated from our human perspective.
Yes, Mr. Sharp was referring to the common graphic depiction of the nautilus shell as a two-dimension cross-section. It seems this naturally excluded the spatial architecture of the shell.
I have learned lately there are many kinds of spirals in two and three dimensions. The logarithmic spiral is one kind and there can be nearly an infinite number of differing logarithmic spirals, each one with its own expansion rate, either very small or very large to anything in between. One of these logarithmic spirals is the Golden spiral with its expansion determined by the constant value of Phi, the Golden Ratio which we have seen is approximately 1.61803… . The nautilus shell growth spiral in two dimensions seems to be influenced by several environmental variables and something genetic giving a mostly logarithmic but not a Golden spiral specifically: John Sharp showed that Phi simply not the factor giving rise to the spiral in the usual two-dimension image of the nautilus. Without Phi as a factor, the nautilus spiral is not a Golden spiral. I don’t know if that excludes the possibility Phi has any role in the nautilus three dimensional growth.
About the swing:
If someone understands the golf swing in three dimensions and the Golden spiral, I hope to eventually see information explaining whether or not Phi is a factor in a proficient golf swing. Would any part of any golf swing spiral be part of a Golden spiral? Can this be described/illustrated from both the swinging and ABS perspectives in everyday language?
Got pissed this morning and started to think about Teebox…not that thinking about Teebox makes me pissed…quite the opposite.
The stupid ball washer jammed with a cut ball from the lawn mower so I had to take the stupid thing apart. What struck my eyes was fascinating and was something I had noticed before but didn’t pay too much attention.
Don’t know how many of you have seen the guts of a ball washer, but there is a large circular brush in the middle of a large steel tub. Surrounding the brush is a steel cage. Nothing out of the ordinary until you see that the steel cage is spiraled around the large brush- from front to back. Got me to thinking…in order for travel to occur along the axis of the brush, the cage has to be in a spiral or the balls won’t be moved forward to the exit point.
Got the stupid thing fixed and was sort of daydreaming while the washer was cycling away thinking about the spiral cage. Well, that led to another thought that I had not considered before in detail. Old wrap-on leather grips are sort of the same thing. If you consider the shaft butt area as the brush, then the leather wrap has to be spiraled in order to travel to its end. Nothing ordinary there also, except if you consider that before one wraps the club the end has to be cut at a 45* angle ( 4:30 line ) 
Then I snapped out of it and went to work… 
Spirals then, spirals now.
Spirals for suns, spirals for us.
Spiralled dna from dead sun stardust ponders itself
Knowing it’s now different than its ancient glow.
Could blazing suns know they’d be self aware,
Fizzling before sentience and inventing golf for fun,
Lagging then and lagging again?
Hey Teebox…what is that …something you penned?
Fraid so RR.
I like it bunchesTeebox…I’ll send you a PM within the next couple days hopefully 
Hey Eagle…a few pages ago you posted a rib cage…are the bones spiral in nature, or are they disconnected circulars…how’s that for medical jargon. Or would they be spiral in nature given the connective tissue also. Obviously, not sure how to ask that one. In those pictures, they almost look spiral in nature give or take some connective areas.
1Tee& Lag,
Good stuff! Nice collaborative.
RR,
I do not know. It looks like maybe some sort of spiral mix, or hybrid…or the right and left halves are out of phase by 45 or 90 degrees, giving the appearance of “down”, then “up.”
Not sure about the functional advantages of how/why the guy did it, but surely there must be one. Kinda like Thomas Jefferson figured out( or borrowed) the concept that a serpentine wall would economize on bricks, but be stronger due to design.
Maybe Jfisch can shed some light. Or one of our engineers.
Or possibly this is it…from a caddy view, or posterior view, the right and left are mirror images. So it’s like cutting two spirals longitudinally, then splicing.
There’s a story behind this deep-space photo. Researchers and scientists after much hard work were able to reduce the image to a series of binary numbers. Super computers were then enlisted to crunch and churn the data. The machines worked for more than a decade and when the project was completed, the following translation appeared:
“The dalai lama walked into a pizzeria and said, ‘Make me one with everything.’”
Now that’s food for thought. 
That’s a true story Paul.
It was at the Astral Fun House and Pizzeria on San Antonio Road off 101.
He was incognito; at first glance I thought he was Woody Allen.
I took his pizza order.
He told me he was taking his pizza to Steve and Woz’s shop to do lunch and brainstorm funding and finish off the day doing 9 at Palo Alto muni.
Like I’d know what that meant.
Inscrutable dude, a light tipper.
When he left, he peeled out on his Harley, golf clubs poking out his saddlebags.
No lie.
1teebox–that was you behind the counter?
He is a notoriously light tipper. He’s always complaining to me, ‘why haven’t I reached the next higher plane of existence?’ I try to tell him that he has to treat people right, that if he doesn’t he’ll be stuck until he advances. He dismisses me with a wave, grabs a five-hour energy drink, and storms off, showing up hours later. The Lama’s personal persona is much different than his public profile. Oh, the stories I could tell…
1tee said…
But did he promise total consciousness? Sometimes that can be worth it.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x-nQ-vPw5k[/youtube]
Eagle,
The Astral Funhouse and Pizzeria Super Jumbo Pizza with All Encompassing Combo, plus tax, totalled $68.53.
He gave me 70 bucks and told me I could keep the change.
He also told me that his tip would grow increasingly valuable, I believe he actually said “precious”, if I would humbly seek a peaceful inward path toward total consciousness.
Now, as we all know, 25 plus years later, a buck 37 is almost worthless.
Why would I want to be fully conscious?
1Tee wrote
Good question. While I have heard many times it is a goal worth achieving, I have not contemplated what it would be for.