Powerful imagery…
Andy
It really depends on where you see the club in the mix. Inside, outside, part of it? There are things that have to happen to create and utilize this kind of force/image.
A friend of mine sent me this in an email this morning. All things considered, it seems quite fitting.
Plus, it’s very tough to beat early 90’s British Alternative in my view- anyone for shoegazing?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygGw_zo_W8A[/youtube]
Maybe. Time will tell.
For now, the thoughts brought here by most folks constitute vastly more than some empty bruised corpse.
Best to all.
It’s not over until we say it’s over. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? 
Where can I find an investor for a local golf course? A 27 hole championship golf course closed in central wisconsin two years ago to build an aquaplex on top of it. The aquaplex fell through but the golf course remained closed. At the time of closing, they had the largest womens league in the state and a very busy public course. This course needs to be reopened!
lucciaa - I’m in Wisconsin. Where is the course? There isn’t much of note in Central Wisconsin.
Cheers,
Captain Chaos
Interesting stuff here I reckon. Any thoughts?
It may be that the Golden Mean, phi (F), or Fibonacci sequences are in the heart of everything that is not lost, or about to be lost, to chaos, including the structure of DNA and a serviceable golf swing. There are supporting clues from professionals who are comfortable discussing the Golden Mean across various domains of scientific study. One discussion of these clues can be found at the following web page: “Chaos, Soliton and Fractals 18 (2003) No. 4, 643-652 – Elsevier Author Gateway, online version: v-weiss.de/chaos.html .
Here are some quotes from that web page which may connect, more or less, with Bom’s DNA images (bold emphasis was applied by me):
“ ‘It bothers me that, according to the laws as we understand them today, it takes … an infinite number of logical operations to figure out what goes on in no matter how tiny a region of space, and no matter how tiny a region of time. How can all that be going on in that tiny space? Why should it take an infinite amount of logic to figure out what a tiny piece of space-time is going to do? So I have often made the hypothesis that ultimately physics will not require a mathematical statement, that in the end the machinery will be revealed and the laws will turn out to be simple, like the checker board with all its apparent complexities,’ wrote Feynman in 1965…”
“Lifeforms maximise their adaptive capacities by entering the region of complexity on the edge of chaos. From the period doubling route of chaos it turns out that when R = 2 F = 2 times 1.618 = 3.236 one gets a super-stable period with two orbits, producing the first island of stability. Thus, the quasi periodic F toroid geometry is the most stable under perturbation. The orbit is of the lowest period possible (being two) and therefore crucially, consumes the least energy to maintain. Bands of order in the Feigenbaum diagram occur at a fixed scaling mean, where all bifurcations, representing the length w1 = (F – 1)/2, are positioned at a = 2 F [47]. This is how F is embedded within dynamical systems, as a universal binary shift operator, or primary eigenfunction. All constants so derived have to be eigenvalues of this operator (think of resonances and harmonics).”
One of the things that fascintates me about the golden ratio is the number of times that ratio appears within the human body. The ratio appears within the digits of our hands, the overall lenth of the body as compared to an upper or lower half segment, the face, the ear, and a few others.
Some of the reading I’ve done on the subject also says the ratio appears within triangles…maybe I can post of picture of one when I get some more time. But that really sounds interesting too as I picture the triangle formed between the shaft angle at address and a line drawn straight down from the hands at address being 2 segments of the triangle.
If I had the time, and the ability ( a Mandrin type task maybe ) it would be fun to play around with lie angles that when completed would form a golden ratio. So the hands, which form a golden ratio within the digits, would be holding an instrument that also conforms to a golden ratio. Sound like it would be pretty involved though given different heights of players, etc.
Just a few incomplete thoughts.
Bom: no ideas yet about those recent pictures, although I can say the top picture may closely resemble my brain wave activity when lining up a four footer
Both of these guys seem to be saying similar things. And it applies to DNA.
DNA, the double helix, is the blueprint for nearly all of life(except for some RNA viruses)…from plant life to Rat to eagle to dolphin to human…it’s almost hard to believe that so much richness and diversity can come from such a simple basic fundamental building scheme. We all have DNA…just in different combinations, “different nitrogenous base pairs”, turned on and off at different times by various things, including the environment, producing the vast life forms we see.
It is interesting, if not fascinating, that from the side we can see that Hoganesque resemblance Bom posted a while back, while from above we see a circle, or wheel with spokes…another resemblance to a golf swing, a hurricane, or a whirlpool.
Those are some mighty fine thoughts, Eagle! Lots to talk about there… thanks for sharing.
Eagle,
The main thing that struck me in digging into DNA and it’s structure, is that it’s ‘backbone’ is/are the sides. That was something that really floored me in terms of it’s applicability to golf. While the centre is the centre, that centre exists due to what moves around it, and vice-versa ultimately. It’s a fascinating situation in terms of the particular/universal point that you referenced.
Cheers.
B
Not to be considered an “aside” because that is very good stuff about the “sides” Bom. It gets right to the center of things. 
Yes…it’s sorta like the exoskeleton on a lobster. In the case of the lobster…it’s not only for stabilty/structure( just like an internal spine), but also for protection.
I am wondering if the important thing is not where it is, internal vs external, but rather what it is for?..In the golfswing we need stability and structure. Do we need protection?
Funny thought today that never occurred to me before- probably because I had no idea what a Golden Ratio is.
Nothing earth shattering, but
Original size of golfball 1.62 inches
Original weight- 1.62 ounces
Golden Ratio Rounded Up- 1.62
our “exoskeleton” = our rib cage
and is not a very important rotating segment in a good pivot?
ribs
edit:
should be …“and is IT not a very important rotating segment in a good pivot?” ( meaning the trunk)
We had horrific examples of rotation power last night in the southeastern part of USA …
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Oszy_dGJY[/youtube]
Eagle said:
This is a great question imo, and I think we absolutely do, and I think the protection of the centre with the sides is the thing that creates potent force, because you’re containing it by protecting the structure. Essentially, you’re not falling over. It’s like the eye of the storm being calm and quiet, and the tighter and harder the rotation is around the centre, the quieter it is, and the quieter it has to be. Which comes first though? This is the thing that fascinates me. Is the dantien powerful because of what it doesn’t do as opposed to what it does do? I think so. I asked this question a while ago in a thread about rotation, but I don’t think the centre can actually do anything. At the absolute centre, there’s nothing. This is at the heart of leverage imo, the further from the centre the easier it is to turn the thing, kind of like a lug wrench. Can you imagine trying turn the nut by pressing a pin head right on top of the centre of it? No chance. The centre of something only exists because of the something, if there’s no something then there’s nothing to be in the middle of. Maybe everything is at the centre of infinity? I don’t know, it’s hard to think about that. But I’m pretty sure that the centre of the golf swing exists because of what moves around it, similar to the DNA structure. But at the same time, once you move correctly and create a centre, the centre does then exist and can be felt and used as a sort of leverage point. But in the golfswing I don’t think it’s a static centre all the way, or it’s not perfectly circular, at least not until maximum acceleration.
In my mind this is very interesting and valuable for picturing a golf swing, it may sound like madness though 
When I talk about the sides or picture them, the thing that appears is the fact that they have to keep moving in order to maintain the structure. And when they do, it makes for a very good golfswing. But the route, or the feeling of the route required to keep moving through impact, is kind of strange, though I’m pretty sure that’s not news in ABS world.