Thanks Craig, the video below isn’t caddy view but it does show some flawed footwork. I shot this video today and reviewed it in v1. It’s a 3iron that I hit on the nose, dead straight with no curve even though the wind was blowing 15mph left. The shaft was the closest I’ve ever gotten to forming a 90* angle with my core. I see my left foot spin a bit post impact so I agree this could cause errant shots. I’m new here and don’t want to hijack this thread so you guys or lag can tell me to buzz off to another thread if necessary. But thanks for the input, it’s great to find people as crazy about the swing as me.
Lot’s of good things going on there…
But I agree, some lower body work would help stabilize lowpoint and set up an opposing force to leverage the torso rotation from post impact.
I was also wondering who else would be a superslotter besides the obvious mentioned earlier (Hogan, Knudson, Player)
It would be nice to know of old school and modern day superslotters. I know Allen Doyle and Sergio were mentioned as modern day.
Of course it is tougher to SS a wedge, but wouldn´t you overload the accumulators.
Maybe it is me, because I hit my short Irons with 70-80 % power and has more the
feeling of a gradual release.
Personally I find it more important to move the wall with the door…
On the short irons… the clubs are shorter and more upright so it is harder to get the club working behind us. It’s harder to really slot it deep. I find it helpful to work on superslotting with a PW. If you can do it with a short club, then it becomes easier to do it with longer clubs. A PW does have the advantage of being heavier in static weight, so if you focus on that, there is something to feel there with the SS transition if done properly.
O.K. I understand. I was just curious about Grady´s PW swing in your garden - It looked like he wants to
hit the PW 170 yards… maybe it was just a drill.
So, how do you slot it for 50 - 80 yards Pitch shots?
Chris–thanks for your posts, especially about slotting the club. I learn a lot from you and I find it interesting how people who are working on finding and utilizing the 430 line, how they interpret how to get there and how the brain makes the body move in a way it thinks will accomplish the task.
By the way, what is the major lightbulb you came up with?
when I look at the great ball strikers i see that some of them make a big forearm rotation in the backswing while others rotate them on the downswing. From a purist standpoint what would be the best way to rotate your forearms to have the most repeatable deep slotted hitting action??
I just saw Zach’s swing that Lag posted and it appears that he has a big forearm rotation on his backswing.
After several weeks in the super slotting module, I can tell you that I rotate my forearms a lot in the backswing. Then I rotate them a little more on the downswing (transition). Lots of usable foreram rotation availbale. Lots…
Thanks for your thoughts being you are in SS! When I rotate my forearms alot in the back swing I get crazy flat. So I guess the question would be can you get too flat.
Can’t be too flat unless you don’t have the gun power at the bottom of the swing and post impact.Remember flat vs upright is swing plane or lots of forearm rotation compared to none.Angle of attack is where we hit on the deformed circle steep vs shallow.
John I have a question, somewhere I read that you want to hit the ball with the true loft.
Depending on my ballposition I launch my 36 degree loft 7 Iron between 13 and 22 degree
initial launch.
The rest of the high of my ballflight results more from drag and backspin. If I would launch
my 7 Iron with the true static loft it would baloon into the air! Did I misunderstood
you?
The ball should come off just slightly less than the true loft for standard swing and ball position just prior to lowpoint.
If you are hitting the ball well and holding shaft flex, the shaft flex hold will take just a touch off the loft also.
What I discourage students doing… is getting their hands way out in front of the ball at impact like many TGM instructors preach in an attempt to fake big lag angles on the downswing, then take a massive divot to fake out the shaft flipping without true post impact pivot thrust pressure.
Any forward shaft lean should exist only from acceleration being present in a big way… and the divots very lean and thin without the shaft flipping post impact.
A near 90 degree lag angle coming into P3, active firing of the forearm rotation while still preserving some wristcock at impact without throwing the right arm at the ball, then stepping on the torso rotation accelerator through P4 and you will have an excellent golf swing that only needs a few refinements.
So when I say strike with the true loft of the club, that is to be taken as resisting forward shaft lean and it is an intention to be worked toward… rather than the opposite.
I agree with what Bruce Devlin said about keeping the ball position as consistent as possible. I use the golf club (various clubs) to change trajectory rather than moving the ball all over the place in the stance because than requires a lot more practice and feel and tends to rotate the plane line out to the right for hitters, or can cause players to come OTT which requires a different transition and downswing. It just is not necessary unless it’s some kind of trouble shot or one needs to really spin the ball hard. While I like to turn the ball around corners or into tight pins, I agree more with Moe’s thoughts on landing the ball softly rather than trying to spin the ball off the front of the greens.
Hogan also talked about using various clubs to control trajectory, and not using clubs to spot line yardages which has been the craze for quite a while now.
Anyway, the next time I am around a launch monitor, I’ll hit a few irons and give you some more specifics, but my 36 degree 7 iron would not be launching under 30 degrees very often. I am not interested in ballooning the ball, but I am not interested in hitting a 7 iron 180 yards very often either. If I want to keep the ball down, I have no ego in hitting a 7 iron from 130 or 140.
The smart players understand this is actually the shortcut to the hole. I would guess I play a standard 7 iron about 155 to 160. I could hit one 180 I suppose if I swung out of my shoes, aimed right and came down steep with draw spin. Unless it was the last hole of a tournament and I had to play a shot like that over a tree or something. Not something I would do often.
I would think (not sure though if this is accurate) that the more a ball is compressed, the lower its initial launch would be. Reminds me of LCDV’s old post about the string drill he used to do. I don’t understand the physics of it all, but I don’t think that the initial launch numbers picked up on a monitor would accurately reflect the launch conditions lag is talking about. You should be able to see dynamic loft on the monitor, which would be a measurement of the loft of the club at impact. Under ABS protocol, the goal would be to have the dynamic loft and static loft as similar as possible, i.e. minimal shaft lean.
Maybe 3Jack would have more info on this. It seems from memory like there might be something about it in TGM Chapter 2, but I could be wrong.
that Lag posted and it appears that he has a big forearm rotation on his backswing.