Science Validates Erickson

Why do you keep linking that guy’s videos? I don’t know who that is or what your point even is…

So similar. The resemblance is uncanny. Can’t even tell them apart. Shocking.

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You want to actively release the club just like Hogan is doing here- then as the pivot rotation speed picks up the arms reverse and cease to continue to roll. It’s a double hit- once with the arms that move the pivot and then entirely with the pivot that move the arms.
If he stalled the pivot the club would flip. Holding the angles through like the one on the right is not as desirable IMO. It’s dragging the handle to get a certain look of a left release

Yes, it’s handle dragging. It’s excessive force across the shaft, it’s a destroyed pivot, a destroyed hand path, AoA issues, delivered loft issues, a speed killer and on and on. It’s not what anyone who can play worth anything does.

Yes you are. Zero clue and a :clown_face:.

Hogan’s net force is doing one thing and the other guy’s is completely different. It’s not just an image or a look…it’s actual forces being input from the golfer into the club. And they are doing two completely opposite things.


:sunglasses::point_up_2:t3::v::partying_face: watch n learn Francis

The only thing I’m watching is a :clown_face:

Iron Byron

:point_up_2:t3::sunglasses: yup

Yup, I’m talking to a :clown_face:

:sunglasses: :point_up_2:t3: ORBIT PULL try it and like it :clown_face:

I think that video above showed a slap shot, where they actually touch the blade of the stick to the ice and bend it back, then releasing the bend to fire the puck. It’s actually the same forward deflection that happens in a golf swing. It’s just that in hockey, they plant the stick in the ice right behind the puck, so the forward deflection happens after the puck is gone. It’s only possible to do this because they have the ice to hold the blade back. One online tutorial reads: “Make contact with the ice inches before you hit the puck. Many mistakenly hit only the puck, thinking the ice will slow their shot. If performed correctly, however, hitting the ice with your stick just before contact with the puck will cause your stick to “flex” and build up energy. Once your stick hits the puck, it will straighten out and transfer the energy from the “flex” into the puck itself.”

:+1::sunglasses::point_up_2:t3: Bend ur stick and enjoy

There is absolutely an orbit pull in the golf swing. That’s ALL the late downswing is…a rapid change of direction of the forces, a pull against the club to resist it’s 100 pound effective weight, and a pull to curve the hand path and create a relatively long flat spot at the bottom of the swing to control the AoA. And a hockey slap shot is not that…it’s a split hand grip with no couple and linear force down very close to the center of mass. And there’s friction between the stick and the ice and a platform (the ice) to push the stick down into. That’s why the hockey stick bends. And it also unloads, but it’s not similar in forces to a golf swing.

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I’m assuming this is a hockey forum now? Hockey isn’t golf. We aren’t discussing the science of hockey slap shots. We’re talking about golf swings. Hockey isn’t golf.

So, basically what youre saying is that hockey players are doing exactly what we do to get maximum velocity and efficient power, by slapping the ice before a shot they create backward bending of the stick to fling the puck. Or…post imact acceleration as the puck triggers a full release of the stick past the puck, much like we “claim” to do.

Its simple, the hockey stick is far stiffer than a golf shaft , the ice is used to assist the loading of the stick. Golfers dont need the ice, we have shafts that can EASILY be flexed with minimal loading.

Great! Thx again for proving our points @Fore_Thirty

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:+1::sunglasses::point_up_2:t3: Enjoy the shaft flex

:point_up_2:t3::sunglasses::point_up_2:t3: Bingo

No, I’m saying it’s nothing like golf. In hockey there is no couple. They are not holding the grip end with both hands at a great distance away from the CoM of the stick. The trail hand is positioned near or on the CoM and the direction of the force is down into the ice and forward with that hand as the top hand pulls back. And they have a surface that they’re driving the stick down into…the ground is creating resistance to push the stick into to bend it.

Golf does not work that way. The hands are a great distance away from the CoM of the club which is causing an angular response to forces and torques. And the net force is not down or forward, it’s up and back into the golfer. The golfer isn’t driving the club down into the ground, they are curving the hand path up and around the corner. And the ground isn’t hit until after the ball is gone.

The two things are nothing alike.