Let's Talk Lag's Golf Machine


Alex was kind enough to send me this sequence of Mac O’Grady this morning, so I though it would be nice to post here.

One of the favorite TGM based golf swings here… yet none of the big TGM instructors promote Mac’s protocol for releasing the golf club, saving right arm, cutting it left, and using the pivot to accelerate the torso post impact creating the orbit pull.
I assume this is why Mac created his MORAD to straighten out a few of the TGM oversights.

The outcome was indeed splendid, as Mac is a wonderful, and powerful striker of a golf ball… even today. Mac’s recent play in the Australian Senior Open finishing 5th using Roger Makay’s old school persimmons and as set of vintage Hogan Apex blades is proof that there is more to golf than buying the latest space age monstrosity. And Mac is not the best roller of the rock on the greens, by his own admission. All the more tribute to his abilities putting the golf ball in the air.

Technique has a lot more to do with it than most would want to ever admit.

Just finished the first round of the TRGA Las Vegas Classic

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Sitting tied for 3rd three back into the last round… with a 74 today
Vic Wilk played some good golf in my group birdying 6 holes today for a 71… so that was fun to watch…

I’ll need to play a little better than I did today to catch him as he is looking pretty hot with the putter.

I had a bit of a rough start with a double on the third, and finished bogey, bogey on 17 and 18… but did hit some nice
iron shots that converted into 3 birdies…

It’s just really fun to play this great golf course with persimmon, as all the fairway bunkers now come into play, and the shots into the greens make you
use all the clubs in your bag. I played my Mac M 85’s today… but am going to switch to the Hogan Bounce Soles tomorrow to help change the feel of
things a bit. It would be nice to shoot a 68 or 69 tomorrow… guns will be blazing!

I hope to get off to a good start tomorrow on the front nine and try to put a little heat on the Vicster!

got get em lag. “you can do it!!!” (waterboy quote)

Good luck John. I remeber the 18th. Is quite a challenge with a persimmon. I played three pretty good shorts(for me) there and still caught the lip on the middle bunker for a bogey.
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TRGA Las Vegas Classic wrap up…

I must say it sure was fun to play in this event again, and I think in some ways more fun this year because this was the third TRGA Pro event and not the
first, where things were a bit more stressful as far as just getting the event to go off as planned and educate everyone in the event about playing by
TRGA rules and not USGA rules. The response to playing off the TRGA book has been very positive, and I think it is meeting it’s objectives making golf more enjoyable, a more fair experience, and certainly does WONDERS to keep up the pace of play by eliminating the dreaded provisional ball rule which usually leads to long rounds on the golf course while playing competition.

Luke Lane won the event with good solid golf and it was a joy to watch as he shot a strong 33 on the front 9, positioning the ball around the course like the pro he is, and once he wrestled the lead away from Vic Wilk picking up 5 shots on the front 9, he had turned the tables from being 3 down to 2 up. Vic was not making the putts he did the first round that put him in the lead, and Brady Exber who is a fine player, just couldn’t get anything going to put any pressure on the guys. Vic did pick up a shot late in the back nine and was one back going into 17, which is a par 3 over water, and I think he made a mental error picking the wrong club. I hit first and knocked a nice one in there close, and Vic told me later he had noticed what I had hit, but didn’t think it was enough club based upon the yardage in his head… but stuck with the club, and then came up short of the green leaving a difficult chip shot that converted into a bogey. Had he gone with his instinct, he would have taken the club he knew would get him there, and then just make the appropriate swing.

How to use yardages, and incorporate them into your game on the course is certainly a topic I think we should discuss here at some point as I have some pretty strong feelings on the subject from what I have been witnessing lately with other players putting all their faith in trying to externally calculate a club selection using laser yardage scopes and so forth.

Since I don’t play a lot of competition these days, I spend most of my time talking about the golf swing, module work, equipment and so forth… so I think this is a chance to reflect a bit on the inner game and also upon competition in general.

As far as my own experience out there… I keep golf the same for any round that I play. I play the golf course. I think it’s hard to necessarily aim for a specific score to shoot in competition, because you never know what the opponent is going to do, or how they are going to play. There are a lot of different approaches to this I know…but I try to feel the round in the moment as “in the now” as possible, keeping a close eye on what is going on around me, and keeping a bit of flexibility to how I am going to play, or how aggressively I am going to play and so forth.

Things can change very quickly on a golf course… especially one like this week where you have to drive the ball as straight as an arrow, and position the ball into the greens below the hole, because the greens were very fast and very tricky.

Last year I brought my “A” game ball striking hitting 15 and 16 greens… but I putted very poorly making only one birdie in two days and shooting a pair of 73’s good enough for a 7 shot victory.

This year, I left my “A” game ballstriking somewhere out on the road between SF and Vegas, and just never was able to cultivate the kind of sensations within the body until late in the second round.

After a bogey, bogey finish in the first round and shooting 74 I knew I would have to play well the final round. My thought was to come out fairly aggressive which I did, going right at the pin on #1 and stuffing a 6 iron in there about 10 feet, and it looked like I had a chance to pick up two shots right on the first hole. I lipped out the putt however. The second I tried to cut in a 5 iron to a back right pin but hit the ball straight and skipped it into a back bunker. Hit a pretty little sand shot, but it just kept rolling past the hole much more than I thought, and missed the comeback putt. The next I drove the ball down the left side to try to open up the pin, but just turned it a bit too much and caught a fairway bunker. I hit a wonderful shot with a 6 iron right at the pin, but again it skipped just off the back, and I had to chip down a tier and didn’t hit a very good chip, leaving a 10 footer which I missed. The forth was a killer for me as I
hit a 3 iron off the tee, wanting to draw the ball down the left side to open the pin, again I over drew the shot, which seemed to be my nemesis all week,
and this time I just missed the fairway and had to draw a nine iron up over the right side of a tree to a back right pin. This time the ball did not draw, and found the water right of the green… so that meant double bogey. The next was a long par 3 which I took right at the stick but just pushed it a tad and it caught the top of the greenside bunker. It was a pretty good shot, and I hit a nice little sand shot to about 2 feet… then lipped out the putt… so I found myself 5 over par after 5 holes. Not the start I was looking for for sure.

I played the rest of the front nine nicely, parring out missing 3 makeable birdies.

Standing on the 10th… my instinct told me if I could shoot 32 on the back I might still have a chance, and things looked bright for a moment after I birdied #10
wedging one to about 6 feet. I birdied again on #14 with another wedge to about a foot, after hitting a mammoth drive over a corner or trees. Any hope probably ended on #15 with a bogey. I played the the last three nicely with makeable birdie runs from 20, 15 and 15 feet.

All it all it was good fun, as it always is when you are in any kind of contention. Even with rough start, I felt good I was able to keep focused and play even par coming in… and giving myself an opportunity to make a late charge if the putter decided to catch or fire rail off a birdie barrage on the back nine.

So much of playing good golf is simply not making big mistakes, or hitting a lot of bad golf shots. Even though I don’t feel I putted all that good, I made enough birdies to win the event. With par at 142 (a par 71). Making no mistakes, my five birdies would have put me at 137. I typically plan on 2 bogeys a round if I am going to win an event, so had I kept that pace I would have shot 141. Even 4 bogeys a round would have put me tied this year at 145.

Last year I had 5 bogeys, but only one birdie in two days. This year I had 5 birdies yet shot 4 strokes worse than last year. Simply put… too many poor golf shots.

I think this is why I like to focus more on ball striking, because if I can just putt decent… it’s easier to make birdies, and position the ball around the course to where you don’t make a lot of bogeys or worse either. I also find it a lot easier to troubleshoot my golf swing than my putting stroke and I think it’s hard to rely upon putting well every round.

It was a lot of fun, and it certainly was a lot more exciting this year than last year… even for me.
Winning a tournament is much like walking a tightrope. Sometimes you don’t have to do anything spectacular, just keep your balance, and don’t fall off into disaster. Luke no doubt played the best golf with a fine 71 on a tough golf course the last round. His front nine 33 gave him some cushion and that certainly made the task a bit easier than having to mount a big comeback coming down the stretch.

So that’s the wrap on this years event.

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Nice one Lag - your still shooting 50% at the Vegas Classic so I like your odds for next year! Are there any more TRGA events scheduled for 2010?

Cheers, Arnie

Good stuff, Lag. It’s impressive to be able to put so much thought into theory and teaching and then go and play competitively and be so close to shooting some good numbers…
Nice work…

Lag

What a pleasure it is to get a thoughtful players account and reaction. I have seen Vegas National, and tricked out and toothed up it would be a very challenging track to say the least. Just a recording of the ball striking sounds would make for great listening. May there be many more, and may a lot of we LagBaggers get to experience them first hand,

Flop

Absolutely a great read Lag, good to get some insight into the tightrope balancing act. As Arnie says, I like your chances for the next event.

What a great final round by Robbo! Good shootin’ fella, with three missed tiny putts too!

Aiguille,

Thanks. It was a fun event to play in and it’s a great track… not a straight hole on the course save the par-3’s.
I assure you that the module work over the last 9 months was a big factor in my play there. Hitting 15-16
greens on that course isn’t easy unless you have a pretty good idea the ball is going to go where you want it
to.

Getting a chance to spend some time with Lag was a bonus. During the practice round he grabbed a cart and
managed to catch our group putting out on #6. He had just arrived at the course so it was pretty impressive to
see him step on the 7th tee and, with a couple of extra waggles for his warm up, pipe a Penna driver almost
270 yards right down the middle. Lag definitely thinks his way around a golf course … it was great fun to
talk a little strategy with him and watch him execute. I think Luke was impressed as well … he told me he’s
getting his irons bent to 2 flat this week. :wink:

robbo

I’ll use the analogy of “loaded dice” since we were just in Vegas…

What we are doing by improving our golf swings, is actually loading the dice to one side… so we increase the chances of hitting the ball well
every time we play golf… or play in a tournament… or even hitting a shot.

If we think of “1” as best and “6” as worst, we want to weight that “1” so it comes up the most for us. Most golfers technique is so poor that they
effectively have so much weight on the “6” that the 1 rarely, if ever comes up.

Nobody hits every shot perfect, shoots under par every round, or wins every tournament. What we want to do is prepare ourselves the best we can to give ourselves the best chance for success, essentially loading the dice in our favor.

One of the pitfalls I’ve seen many players fall into including myself, is that of trying “to force” an expectation, then when things don’t go as planned, the player ends up in a false disbelief over their performance… as they board the “whine train”. We’ve all seen it and been there at one point or another.

One of the lessons I learned on tour was simply that I wasn’t as good as I initially believed. My winning percentage was about 1 out of 30 events I played in. That’s not really all that often, but actually better than most. With 144 players each week… an average player would win about one out of every 144 events. There are a lot of guys out there that will be competing for 10 years and win nothing. A guy playing 30 events a year for a decade (300 events) may have to go another 5 years to pick up a win. Just because you should win one out of 144 doesn’t mean it is going to happen. With 37 slots on a roulette table, even though the odds are 1 in 37 or 2.70% of hitting a number… there is no guarantee that your number is going to come up within each set of 37 attempts.

One of the things that helped me keep my sanity on tour was this realization. We all carry a number. For Tiger it may be 1 in 4. For someone else, maybe 1 in 1000.

The only certainty is that to win anything, you have to play in events, and complete all your rounds.

I did a several part extensive interviewed with John Erickson (Lagpressure) recently on my TGM Blog, so for those interested here are the links:

http://gothamgolfblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/john-lagpressure-erickson.html

and
http://gothamgolfblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/john-lagpressure-erickson-ii.html

Enjoy

I did. Great read. Can’t wait for the next ones.

+1 really enjoyed reading that!

Great interview. That story about how Lag meets Ben Doyle …!! It brought to mind what a friend occasionally says “there are no coincidences…”…

I like the dice analogy.

Gary Player…“the more I practice, the luckier I get…”

     Lag/ABS corollary...."the more  I drill, the luckier I get"

Lag,
This picture of Trevino post impact looks very ‘chased down the line’ with the clubhead. It’s a great angle and I’ve never noticed him in that position before. It would be cool to hear your thoughts on it if you get a chance, and also if you have any thoughts on that figure 8 loop graphic in the photo- particularly in regard to the part of the loop that extends outside the target line past impact…
Cheers…
BOM
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The more bags I have to replace… :smiley:

I’m working on a book review of Trevino’s classic “Swing my Way” and he talks a lot about the advantages of a figure 8 golf swing. He is a very deep thinker about the swing… not the joking clownish public persona most have him pegged as being.

Trevino was one of the great master shot makers who could find the pin anywhere on any green with his ability to position the ball into the correct part of the fairway, and then work the ball into the pin, not just by the shape of the shot but also the way he would spin it on the green once the ball arrived. This kind of class artistry has been all but lost and forgotten in the modern game which of course continues to be a tragedy in the making. Golf is far less sophisticated than it used to be.

I should have it out “the review” soon… so I’ll post it around here and it will be archived in the “Instructional Books” thread as is the review I did on George Knudson’s classic.

Sounds good Lag… I look forward to reading it. Yeah I like that Knudsen book… I wonder about his grip concept a little though. He’s got an interesting swing I think, he seems to be kind of floppy with his hands post impact, it just looks that way to me. I think his belief in the pivot makes for a lack of involvement in terms of active hand acceleration. I loved his story about the big flag pole- at the time when I read it it made me think that Rotella wasn’t such a genius after all…