Argument for using blade irons

Bom
My head is totally blank on this; something like a lack of a specific neuron(s). ButI have a PW head somewhere and will have to stick a long shaft in it to comprehend it.

I know the feeling!

Greta quote/thought by Bob Tway-- sounds very much like Lag talking about feedback being necessary

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Interesting but no surpise!!

Did you notice the Eye 2’s he looked to be playing in the 86 Open video? No idea what color dot they were, but they looked flat to me.

Tway really needs to get himself an ebay account… I’m feeling covetous :smiley:

BOM - I don’t need another ebay rival coveting the Hogan gear (or is it the Wood Bros driver you’re wanting?) :smiley:

What ever happend to “Tail” clothing??!! :question:

You’re safe, Robbo, it was actually the trousers and the brolly I was after :smiley:

Fair enough Bom! :smiley:

Looks like Hogan let him use his equipment, but based on the clean bag…no sponsorship. Ben probably knew what he’d been using prior to “coming around”! :wink:

And knowing the stories about Hogan, I’d say that 1 iron might’ve been the deal breaker on the bag.

The other thing I like about his set is the “sand wedge”. There really should be a loft limit at the end of the bag for the sake of the game, but also for the sake of learning the game- altering the loft down there and hitting different shots is a big part of developing feel around the greens.

I can’t tell when this article in original post was written so maybe that explains it, but WHY is he advocating only forgings before 1989?

Modern forgings/metalurgy have advanced many fold since 1988 and a modern forged blade surely superior, provided cost isn’t a factor. Maybe he is suggesting earlier forgings were USA made and since that time have gone elsewhere (but can’t be worse, right)?

The problem with modern forgings isn’t the materials, it’s the shape and grind. The manufacturers make the new blades just awful; bottom weighting, toe weithing, too much bounce, wide soles, wacky progressive offset or big offset on everything, overly long blades, and even weird bore-thru stuff like the early Cally Bobby Jones (that was cast so I don’t know if it really counts). The sweetspots are way out toward the toe & the lofts in the short irons are all way too strong. Did I miss anything?

too much/too thick top line when looking down from address— add that LCD and you have it all covered! :smiley: … how about the sets now that are all hybrids…OMG :smiling_imp:

And the new sets that are irons start at the 4 or 5 iron because THEY assume we’re too weak & sad to OMG hit real long irons when the real prob is the shite balls they jam down our gullets to the tune of what, $75 a dozen (don’t even know any more)? So this crap is numbered 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, PW, FW, GW, SW, LW, 64*W. Uber Brother has made it the law to carry 6 wedges so everyone has something with a W on it that goes 180 but everyone hits the same ugly parabolic shot with everything that has no control and no semblence of the beauty that no one under 40 even remembers in a proper golf shot. In the Brave New World of the 21st Century everything has to dumbed down in the name of equity and parady so nothing can ever be allowed to become exceptionally good or bad; sport, clothing (everything is made in China now, even Brooks Brothers and all of us are forced to wear variations of the semi-natural, semi-synthetic mass produced disposable ultra expensive uniforms [ERR trends] mass produced and hidden behind labels which once meant some sort of pseudo-indivuality), food (too much to EVEN get into), homes & cars and of course our thoughts and moods and even our sex. Information is deformed, contorted and processed automatically just like a Chicken McNugget so that Lindsay Lohan becomes more important than Pres/ex-Pres Mubarek and just in case any tiny, scary glimmer of reality breaks through we’re all already pickled, sidetracked and totally numbed out on Xanax, Jack Daniels & Cialis.

Whoops, sorry, just woke up and haven’t had my morning $8.23 half-caff vente skim latte yet. My bad…

LOL I love it when you get on a rant!!
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lol, yeah good rant LCD. I guess a big part of these types of rants (I share same to at times I suppose) is getting older. The teenies and early 20 year olds today see players like Lag/Two/etc and think “old school” cranks and then just go out and drive it 300y into the rough guarding the fairway then use their shovel iron with their can’t miss sweetspot and strong lofts technology to hit it out and onto green in 2 or 3 on a par 5 thinking its golf. The more I watch the modern PGA the more I seem to see players haphazardly caring about even sand bunkers anymore other than something trivial to get out of around green if they do happen into it. Or having to watch the so called TOP 10 golfers in WORLD landing in deep rough on drives and/or missing greens at 125y. I can go watch ME do that let alone pro’s on TV!

I also get mad a bit when a pro hits wayward shot and the crowd seems to keep the ball from going real deep. I’ve seen Tiger miss green badly and ball was still hot yet hits audience and/or barrier not too far off green. Us amateurs that ball would have been another 20-40y more of a miss, a big difference.

But anyway… The flip side is would you rather drive a car from the 70’s or one of today? A smoger v6/v8 with horrible mpgs and heavy as shit with very little safety for the times you “mishit” while driving. Or a modern auto with technology that could save your life? So why would ANY golfer, especially one not doing it for pay, play irons from 40 years ago? Even todays blades are easier to use. Don’t have to resort to CB’s but grab a modern blade. I’ve seen used modern Mizunos for same price as Wilson Dynas.

The cars of the 70’s and prior, although lacking todays safety bags, shoulder harnesses, etc, were probably a little safer. If I had to choose between a '65 full beast Chrysler and the 300 series today to save me from an impact, I might choose the old one. It was not so much lacking all the safety stuff…but the early cars were solid steel motorized tanks ready to plow through anything- they were very heavy. If the old car smacked into a new one from today’s production line…it would be like a diesel locomotive plowing through a Volkswagen Bug with air bags. Not enough air bags to stop all that weight. :slight_smile:

If I won the PowerBall or something I’d get a Burgundy '48 Mercury Town & Country Woody Wagon. I saw an all original one at the Barrett-Jackson auction at Mandalay Bay a couple years ago. I think it was the most beautiful car I’ve ever seen and what a beast, the size of it was unreal. Bidding got up to $274,000 and I don’t think it was anywhere near the reserve. And if people knew how to drive these overpriced tuna cans maybe they wouldn’t need 18 airbags. The only new car manufacturer I find compelling or even interesting is Tesla. You can only reinvent a carbon-burning mousetrap so many times.

And that rant was not musings of an old man. I’m 37 and quite fed up with living in a world dominated by thirty years of supply side economics. I know overpriced unnecessary garbage when I see it and I absolutely DO NOT SUBSCRIBE to the theory that newest is innately best. Haven’t seen one iron head made in the last fifteen years I’d play for free. There’s always something that’s totally thats wrong, usually everything. The only thing easy to do with them is hit a high hook, the worst shot there is. Not interested thank you.

While I was in Peru last year I finally had a chance to go to Macchu Picchu. To this day a lot of people claim that aliens built the place because nobody can explain the undertaking. The city could not be constructed with the same intricacy and engineering detail today no matter how much manpower and technology were devoted to it. It is simply beyond us. The design and construction of centuries ago is vastly superior to what we can produce with all this technology.

I suppose it depends upon perspective, some look at the past and see AMC Pacers, and others see the Pyramids. And Pacers too…

That and the old cars were much, much bigger than today’s cars.

3JACK

I see one of the greatest par 5’s in history…