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Interesting to view this now through the Hogan modules lens. Typical the tracer wouldn’t go past impact.
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To see Hogan tripping the shaft and completely understanding that action now is great…
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I’m in agreement you have to look at Hogan swing and put Power Golf & Five Fundamentals away in the bottom drawer honestly unless someone just wants to look at the great artwork of Anthony Ravielli the books are definitely good for that.
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I grabbed that one as well. 
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Hey lag what is your take on the Ben Hogan grip as taught by John Schlee in one of his youtube vids? When I try to do this wrap with the left hand fingers it feels very solid and tight. Anythoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Can you post the link for the rest of us to check out ?
Hogan’s grip was more neutral than most think. When tinkering with Hogan stuff.. try to keep in mind how this is going to check the critical boxes of what Hogan was doing with the clubhead, shaft, clubface. For example, would this help with the inside takeaway or tripping the shaft? Would it help get the shaft on 4:30? How would this help with holding shaft flex through the strike or working the shaft low left and around post impact?
A grip too strong would shut the clubface on the downswing and into impact …. therefore inhibiting an aggressive level rotation into the strike. Too weak and you don’t have proper support for the heavier heads pressuring into the strike.
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Makes sense thanks. Happy Christmas amd new year.
By the 1986 Masters Jack won 1 in 5.8 majors he played in. By 2019 Masters Tiger won 1 in every 5.4.
Hogan won 1 in every 3.6 by 1953.
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A more accurate comparison for Nicklaus and Hogan would be after Jack’s 17th major in 1980. 1986 was many majors later and a bit of a one off. He was closer in age to Hogan’s last major in 1980. Even so, his wins would equate to every 4.4 majors, still well off Hogan’s incredible stat.
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You can prove anything with facts..
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Or look at Tiger by end of 2009
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At the end of 2008, his last year winning a major until 2019, his major winning rate was about 3.2. Crazy!
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But Tiger turned only 33 at the end of 2008. Perhaps it’s better to use age, say 40, which is how old Hogan was when he won his last major and also how old Jack was when he won his penultimate major. What would Tiger’s winning rate be in the majors he played until 40 years old?
At age 40, Tigers winning rate would be 4.9.
So he sucks compared to Jack and Hogan 
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I don’t understand your math are you totally discounting Tiger 3 consecutive US Amateur Titles which were considered Majors for such a long time?
Using majors is hard because the standard has changed… and yes Jones was considered to have won amateur majors in his era. That of course would not be the case now because none of the top ranked players in the world played this year at Olympic Club. There is an argument for Walter Hagen also. Hogan won events that were considered major events prior to Nicklaus such as the World Golf Championship at Tam O Shanter. I think Hogan won that twice. The North South and Western were considered major events and the “Hale America Open”
Even the US Open used to be a pretty strict regulated event with ankle deep rough and major penalty for missing fairways. Now, some years they grow thick rough, others they don’t. On a year they don’t grow it …. you get a Rory winning.. who otherwise has missed the cut 5 times… which is a far cry from Hogan never being out of the top ten from 1940 to 1960. Four US Open wins from 48 to 53 in the game’s most difficult test hands down.
No one was anywhere near Tiger during his era…. completely dominated the 3.0 version of golf.
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Looking at Ben Hogan’s swing in mirror image on YouTube:
Very useful for getting a fresh Hogan perspective on everything we’re talking about here in this thread and this Forum!
(This is such a great thread).
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