Lag, lightbulb moments and videotape

Here’s the link for Charlie Rose. It’s at about 16:44, great stuff about passively active to get barrel on ball, THEN accelerate! Tremendous.

http://www.charlierose.com/watch/60292560

I tried to TubeChop it but it didn’t work, but someone with skills should crop this great section out for ABS history.

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Thanks John. :smiley:

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RR…thanks for posting the link.

NRG…congratulations! They say a picture is worth a thousand words, but I bet the story would be interesting. WTG!

Thanks Eagle,

Ok, I’ll tell the story behind the trophies best I can remember…

First one is a 4 man Texas Scramble, I can’t remember many details from the round cause it was back in April.

Next was The Gascoigne Trophies which was the completion named after my Grandfather, so I am really pleased to have eventually won that one. It was a 4 ball better ball and I was a few under par with my ball and we won the comp with 46 points.

Next was the net prize for the club championship first qualifying round, I shot a 73 and qualified in 5th place for the match play. I lost after extra holes in the semis of the matchplay against the eventual winner. I really should have won the match, having been 4 up at one stage and 2 up with 3 to play… I somehow managed to throw it away, at 2 up and just short of the par 5 16th in 2 with an easy chip onto the green and my opponent in a greenside bunker in 3 - figure that one out. :cry:

Next one was a NACYP medal. I shot 3 under par 68 which is my pb in a medal. I was 4 under after 6, had a penalty drop out of a ditch on 8, shanked one on 15, but finished with a couple of birdies. That round pretty much got me down to 4 for the first time ever.

Next one is the Thompson Tankards, which is the clubs knock out doubles comp. My partner and I pretty much dominated all of the rounds including the final and were never in doubt at any stage in any match.

Last one is Team Player – Player of the year. I had a great record at home - won 6, half 1, lost 1. The highlight of the year was getting a half against a former County Champion away from home.

Before working with Lag, I would be lucky to pick up a prize every few years and I wasn’t good enough to make the team. And my swing is still very much a work in progress, so who knows where things will be after a few more years.

Mod 5 Student…

I had a lightbulb moment on the course today. Might not be significant for many here, but for me it was.

The 18th at kooringal (Melbourne) is a 520m par 5. My drive left me in the centre of the fairway with 260m to the pin. I pulled my second and found myself 120m out 2m behind a large cypress pine. Now I needed a par to finish square (playing par). Now how do I induce a low snap hook so I can get on the green or at least close enough to chip my 4th. In the past I had tried to over roll the wrists but most time the ball would just go straight. Then it came to me…my module 3 work has been helping with my hook, so I should implement anti module 3…swing as normal but resist any body rotation.

My 5i kept the ball about 2m off the ground headed right of the tree then started moving left…way left… And it stopped on the front edge. I chipped to 2.5m and drained the putt to finish square.

Not only am I Enjoying the improvement in my ball striking since meeting Two, I have begun thinking more about how to play the game. Today was hopefully the first of many new discoveries in this great journey

Module #1 Student:

New Mod 2 student:

I recently had a lightbulb moment with the general straightening of the right arm from downswing through finish. I have been focusing much on the hands, the arm connection to the torso and my legwork. Now that some of those things are becoming automatic I looked at some videos covering the right arm and images of ben hogan and other great ballstrikers and their low hands and right arm straightening. I started doing drills focusing on that.

The drills were similar to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlDtcdXfyFY

On my first real shot with a golf ball, I allowed my right arm to straighten and get my hands very low. I felt my shoulders move very level through the hit with a great deal of closing through impact, as if I was standing straight up and turning my shoulders in a circular motion. I felt a very shallow angle of attack into the ball near my knees with only my forearms moving independent of my torso. I have been struggling with pulling low and left but with my hands so low, so much of my arms are pinned to my torso, and the pivot move, my hands couldn’t go anywhere but low and left and then high into PV5. I could attack the ground with large amounts of lag with high ball flight yet still take shallow divots that are even and barely take enough grass to get through the dirt.

I’ve been drilling hard the last few weeks and practicing several times a day. Over the course of this time, I’ve done many static holds and drills with two golf clubs that break the swing down into several segments (such as the superslot move, weight transition, straightening of the right arm etc.) I started developing tennis elbow from the amount of repetition and I have to slow down and rehabilitate it. I clearly went too hard, I’ve been quite manic in my practicing of golf recently. When I get to have some more experience with this lightbulb moment I can come back with some results.

I’ve not completely stopped swinging or drilling, but I have reduced the number of repetitions and stopped using so much weight in my drills.

I feel the funny things I’ve found about lightbulb moments, especially as they pertain to golf, are how they are really a chain reaction. One light setting off others.

My recent lightbulb about the motion of the right arm, lead to a lightbulb about how low the hands can be through impact, then to the connection between arms and torso, then to the necessity of the “orbit pull” and intention of post impact acceleration.

One realization, leading to another realization that is an addendum to previously held concepts. Even if it is something you already knew, it’s like looking back with new knowledge adds more detail to the original picture.

Here to report another lightbulb moment. I recently had a lighbulb moment regarding the elbow plane through impact, but after looking at videos and stills of my swing, I still found my right arm a bit farther from my body than I wanted and there was still a little bit more handsy release than I wanted.

That low and left release still eluded me. I started to explore this idea I found around the forums of opposing hand pressures. Toying with this concept, I would take my grip on the club, then try to move my right hand over to the left at the same time and force that I tried to move my left hand over to the right (as if I was wringing out a towel or giving someone an “indian burn” in grade school). To my enjoyment, the clubface stayed absolutely square, if anything opened a smidge, and my grip pressure increased very much.

Maybe this was what hogan meant by holding the grip lightly but firmly, hmmm… Seems like a paradox, but when I did this my grip went from light to firm. I started toying around with this at impact, and I found I got very good results in chipping and pitching if I felt that my hands were MAXIMALLY opposing each other after impact. But still, too much flip through impact and right elbow getting away from my side after hit because soon after impact, I would let my left hand relax and right hand flip through.

So I took it to more of an extreme, now I aimed to increase opposing hand pressure after impact, but then NEVER let my right hand win over my left hand. I was going to pivot and turn hard along the elbow plane, three right hands, but still make sure my left hand “won” the battle. As soon as I did it, very pure contact with a very high release at the end like Hogan has and through impact I felt a connection between my left arm and side that I never had before.It was like through impact my left arm fused to and became the left side of my torso. I knew I was onto something.

After hitting many pure shots and taking stills of my swing, I’m finally seeing some vapor trail positions that I could not reach. At impact I’ve been wanting to look like a picture on here of Jimmy Bruen, and through the ball a certain picture of hogan through. Vapor trails, I know, but they can be used to diagnose whether I’m feeling what I should. I hope I am.

Love this site, great compendium of knowledge. This forum has helped so much. Onward to more lightbulbs!!

imgur.com/a/fkIxQ - my downswing into impact

imgur.com/a/TqxAT - vapor trails I’m talking about

Nick great stuff.

Thanks a bunch Grady. This forum has reinvigorated my love of the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DI0L3I1lkg&feature=youtu.be - 1/4 speed of the swing.

As many times as I hear Bradley talk about this and understand the concept, it never gets old. Pressuring down in to the right leg automatically bumps the left hip out of the way, gets you the squat if that’s what you want, establishes secondary tilt, keeping the torso back. What really is great about doing this is it gets you coming into impact with shoulders closed and saved for later. It’s that coupled with fast handspeed coming into impact.

Bradley Hughes:
The pics show how right foot/leg/ankle pressure in transition… and NOT trying to get left into the lead leg…helps put the body and club in position to USE.

The pics are of myself, Hogan & Player…there is a distinct right leg/foot/ankle pressure pushing down which IS what actually bumps the hips forward and keeps the upper body back and closed with range available to use into and then ultimately beyond the strike.

Hogan felt he initiated the downswing by turning his left hip out of the way…that is HIS FEEL… you can see however that the left hip does not clear or open (and he is halfway to strike already)… the hips actually look on the closed side of square rather than open.

The right leg/foot/ankle pressure is a balance mechanism that heads the lower half forward without spinning. The knees separate and open and that gap gets closed into the strike through ground pressure and right leg drive with the right arm and club all in on e motion for a full hit. It keeps the top half back. It keeps the arms rotated and behind. It keeps wristcock in place for a later release.
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Moving to the left side too early and coming steep into impact has been something I’ve tried to work through on my own.

Have been doing Bradely’s drill 1 (same/similar to module 1?) for less than 10 days and I can already feel a shallowing and a feeling that I’m staying behind the ball and my arms/hands/clubhead actually have somewhere to move through impact.

Hit some balls the last couple of nights and was very suprised and impressed with the ballflight. Many good things to come if I keep putting the hardwork in :slight_smile:

*Please let me know if you’d prefer me not to mention other’s drills/lessons on your forum lag. I know you guys have worked together but I want to be respectful

Mod 6 student incorporating excellent spine tilt then using that mass to transfer through the strike.

Mod 2 Student:

Would you not want the last photo to look more like this ) from head to toe? Keeping that forward bend all the way to followthrough is not something that the best ball strikers have done historically and, in my experience at least, is both a power leak and does not help accuracy. If you have a bad back then all is forgiven.

Are you suggesting a “reverse C” finish? Just wanting clarification.

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Not so different than Palmer here, as far as hips thrusting forward.

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Moe was not going into a reverse “C” or getting the hips forward of the left knee.

The arm “spokes” are attached to the shoulders at the sockets, so that is a good place to look at what is going on… more than the hips.

The question is whether or not forward or lateral hip movement is creating an increase in velocity at the left shoulder in particular. It depends. This student could have a stronger core motor post impact, no doubt… and that usually will create a bit more lateral action, but not necessarily.

Age and flexibility are factors, but as Moe shows here, the torso can even be tilted toward the target past P4 with quality results.

It’s a good discussion for sure.

Reverse C usually means steep shoulders.