It does sound like science is starting to understand what we have been teaching for almost 15 years… and the conclusions I came to in the early 1990’s. It certainly confirms my complete disinterest in the horrible modern drivers that force you to have two swings.
They are fundamentally wrong and I have always know this to be true since they came out. Too light, too long, too upright… no feedback.
Michael explains why I started pulling the shafts and reboring the holes on my persimmon drivers down to 48 degrees. Interesting that he discovered there were other players from the past doing this as well. I knew I wasn’t the only one.
You can relay back to Michael that Wilson was making a persimmon driver in the 1940’s that was 48 degree lie angle… “stock” off the shelf. Flat lie angles with drivers is 80 plus year old technology. I have one (Wilson) and used that as a model for my drivers.
Very good and professional interview, thanks for sharing with us.
Interesting listening to Michael Neff from Gears on the Flaghunters podcast posted above.
Reminded me of what Trevino wrote
“In my own set for instance, I’ve got a standard lie on my 4 iron and 5 iron. However, the lie on my 3 iron is one half degree more upright than standard, and the lie on my 2 iron is one degree more upright. When I work up from the 5 iron in the other direction, into the lofted clubs, I reverse the process: each higher numbered club is progressively one-half degree flatter than standard.”
I do this too. My long irons I’m okay with normal lies, my short irons I like 2, or even 3, degrees flat. Basically do .5 degree gaps in lie angle where the standard progression is usually 1 degree. I noticed some manufacturers are doing this now too.
Maybe something about the shut face player…
They’re moving that way, but 1 degree between clubs was the standard back in the day. Both my old clubmaking books are that way, you can see it on spec sheets too. A lot of newer irons are now coming out with .5* progressions which I like better.
