I laughed at that! Maybe it’s my more empathetic side, but words do indeed hold a tone. Anyway, Stewie Griffin it is. Cut Meg some slack, btw.
Captain Chaos
I don’t think it’s the USGA that pushing this. It’s more like this.
PGA = Abusive husband that constantly demands attention from his viewers and the big bucks that has to have things done his way. He says, “I bring home the money! We do it my way! (cue Gordon Gecko with ‘Greed is good.’)”
OEMs = Husbands’ brother that makes $$$ of what brother does. Has his own flaw of dishonesty. “This new club will get you 10 more yards…”.
USGA= Wife that just says, “Yes, dear whatever you say is correct. We will follow what you say. Please don’t let me get beaten/sued again by your brother.”
R&A=Wifes’ live-in sister. “Guess I gotta do what he says if I want to stay here and survive.”
Regular golfers = children of the USGA/R&A that dont’ know what the hell is going on but aint too happy about the situation. The younger children are victims of Stockholm syndrome and believe that the long ball is the holy grail of golf since that is what father PGA and uncle OEM says.
That in a nutshell paints a picture of the dysfunctional family that is Golf today.
Quote from Mr Bob Goalby.
I got $1500 to sign with Spaulding and eventually got it up to $5000 a year. They raised it to $6000 when i won the Masters. Clubs once a year,and two or three dozen balls a week.
Jim furyk refuses deals under $100,000 k and thats to wear shirts
You can’t make a comparison over 50 years, that’s ludicrous.
Jim Furyk is doing a job, if someone is willing to pay him stupid money to wear a shirt why should he be criticised for taking it?
Guess what, if no one was willing to pay $100k it wouldn’t be long before he dropped his price.
It’s more of a reflection on how the game has become commercialized. It has nothing to do with Furyk. Of course, anyone would take the money for the shirt. You’re missing the point.
Quote from Mr. Goalbly… two sentences later
I got $20,000 for winning masters. Now i get $10,000 to go there and eat a free steak.
His quote on Hogan… Hogan would hit 3 wood off the tee 40% of the time in a U.S. Open or any tight course he didn’t care if he had 5 iron in because in the long run he knew he would get them as long as he was in the fairway.
Kinda like Bubba Watson hit it 400 yds in the fairway and miss the green with a sw from 62 yds.
On his best shots. After hitting the tree on the 18th at Augusta i had a 2 iron on a hook lie that i had to cut uphill and the 3 iron into 15 were i made eagle.
Anyway. Back to the current PGA tour.
Great to see Tiger on top. I backed him before Christmas for the masters at double figures 
He was never double digits.
how do you explain my 10/1?
Nice to see Tiger win an event with superior ball striking. 1st in greens in reg and was not under 30 putts average for the week and still won by 5. I didn’t see the event… but for a quick look, the announcer said he had not missed a green in the last 16 holes when I had tuned in. If that kind of striking was more the rule than the odd occurrence I probably would not be so hard on the younger guys. We should be seeing this kind of thing every week by the majority of the players.
I never doubted he would win again.
Tiger played very soild, super win. I love champions/favorites winning titles/events. Tiger never went down in my eyes cause he strayed in mariage. I doubt i be shot down in this forum, but men hunt woman nest, its nature. But, no matter what ur views, i thought he swung nice, putted solid, drove it ok, apart from the 3 wood 60 yards out of bounds, 2nd round way left. Maltby said someone somewhere may have said something at a volume that may have affected the concentration of Tiger.Mayeb possible.
It was nice to see Tiger play some shots with precision. So much better than watching Bubba bouncing it off the rocks and holing the putt on 18, 2nd round. Now why a guys feels the need to hook it 30 yards with a 9 iron to a center pin, will never settle with me. The fact that he moves this plastic modern ball so much astounds me. I dont play great, norm around par, give or take. For me to hook a 30 yard 9 iron, i might have to stand on my head and hold my breath to do that.
Styles if u got 10/1 tiger for the masters, thats a nice bet, not great, but nice. I took the Raiders with 7.5 start V West Tigers tonight. Raiders won 30-12. That was a great bet I reckon i will find some value better than 10’s to win the Masters, Tigers 60 yard pull will create doubt, the putter looks ok, not great, his chipping was rather poor, missed the green twice with chips, his sand play was ok, Jason Day @ $40 may be my bet, Did ok last year
Steve
I watched the final round. He was really flushing the long irons off the tee. He finding the center pretty consistently with his two-iron (occasionally past MacDowell’s 3-metal, it seemed) and was hitting 170 - 190 into most greens. I like seeing him do well but it’s not that same as it was before.
Every bet that wins is a great bet apples lol
10/1 will be useless unless he wins Haha! Though i may be able to lay it if he goes well.
This is a very entertaining thread, I haven’t taken a look at this for way too long. At the risk of interjecting, a few thoughts… A certain controversial Englishman around these parts wins the official Eejit O’ the Year Award for claiming players like Tommy Bolt, Jimmy Demeret etc never played the Open because they were “complacent”… Winner winner chicken dinner dude. These guys were so broke you can’t even imagine, there weren’t lines of kids with their parents 10 deep begging for autographs when they won let alone tied for 24th. I heard the stories from somebody who was actually there. You know how Lloyd Mangrum ate breakfast everyday? I doubt it. He’d sidle up to a different guy every morning, generally somebody he’d never met while they were having breakfast in the hotel restaurant, strike up a conversation and just start eating their toast. He kept doing it even when he started winning and could buy his own breakfast, he was so used to doing it and in those days people just didn’t dare say anything. When Hogan and Palmer won the Open they STILL lost money on the endeavour, it wasn’t even close. In a world not ruled by marketing majors its not generally a great idea to play an event every year where you still lose money when you win. Once in a while just so you can say you did it OK but that’s it.
As far as Rory goes every time I watch him all I see is Bobby Clampett, I can’t be the only one making this connection. He’s like a Xerox copy 30 years later and sooner or later that high hook is gonna do the same thing to Rory. It may take longer nowadays but that horse bucks everybody in the end.
Only other thing I didn’t see here is a mention about the dimple patterns. Along with the launch angles and parabolic flights the self correction in flight caused by the dimple patterns you can’t compare anything anymore. It’s impossible. The ball just does what it wants, it never gets compressed so the intrinsic design completely overwhelms anything the player could possibly do. After all this time studying compression anybody who’s into this has to just get this I would think. It just ruins any chance of debating this stuff.
After reading further this is an official shout out to my main man Bomgolf222. Dude I owe you about a friggin keg o’ Guinness. You nailed it to a tee. My first instinct would be that any pro who says that the rocks aren’t A LOT harder to play short irons with has to be a terrible short iron player but that’s wrong. The reason could only be that you haven’t gotten your hands on some wound balls and used them. Lag you keep using that same “six iron from 150” line and that’s the problem man. That’s the rock ball effect, you’re hitting that weak six iron because you know intrinsically that if you hit the right shot,a head high eight and shove it down the flag’s throat whether it likes it or not, that the rock is going up, up and away real hot and on that parabolic flight. 150 ain’t a six unless it’s into a breeze if you’re compressing it. That’s just the way it is. There’s ammo on eBay, there’s like a gross of Maxflis for cheap, they will self correct because of the dimples, those HTs were the first that did but its nothing like the new stuff. I wrote a long time ago the rock get in the eye of the shot and its the God’s honest truth,its impossible not to. There’s no way you’d say that it isn’t way way WAY harder to hit short irons close with ProVs if you went back and hit some wound balls. It’s night and day, 10 shots and it starts coming back. There’s few things as satisfying as hitting screaming wedges and short irons into cornered pins with no fear. There’s always fear with the rocks, there is always a fight.
I can’t speak on the differences in clubs or balls because I am too young to know. But come on, now we’re comparing Rory Mcilroy to Bobby Clampett?!
And that statement is the most disheartening of all…
I miss cutting the covers and having rubber-bands spill out like entrails.
Captain Chaos
That’s not a dig, it’s a compliment. Bobby was a world beater at 22, “the total package, the next great of the game, born to play great golf”. Nicklaus was ‘washed up’, & Watson was in his prime but nearing the end of it. Striking similarities to now, eh? Then there’s their games, which are also strikingly similar. Who do you want to compare Rory to, Byron Nelson?
I can see some similarity there. It will be interesting to see if the comparison remains valid down the road. I personally don’t think it will. I think Rory’s playing style will do quite well in today’s game. May or may not have in the past.